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Tijs in reply to @frankenbike

flat stem and bars

Flat bars are literally the ugliest thing ever (not talking about wide (MTB) bars obviously).

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frankenbike in reply to @Tijs
Okay, but you know what I mean. Like this one - the drop at the stem is basically the same as the rise on the bars

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Tijs in reply to @frankenbike

Those Cinelli stems are silly, I agree. Well, the people that run them. Usually with a lot of spacers like in the picture. Remove the spacers and get a stem with an angle that puts the bars in the same position as they are now. Can still be a negative angle stem. And keep the risers.

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