Tubeless Tyres -"saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again" Hippy read the first f**king post

Cheapo CO2 kit from Decathlon.

Poured sealant in
Sealant starts to leak out everywhere
Quick, get some bloody air in it
1st CO2 cartridge fails as tyre not seating over the valve stem thing
2nd CO2 cartridge nails it.

Sure there's an easier way...

Sure there's an easier way...

https://www.implotex.de/silent-air-compressor/850w-silent-air-kompressor-druckluftkompressor-implotex/a-665/

Looks good.

All I need now is a £500 compressor and some way of telling if there's any sealant actually left inside the tyre.

some way of telling if there's any sealant actually left inside the tyre.

There's this, but it's a very expensive syringe O_o

http://road.cc/content/review/176166-milkit-tubeless-valve-and-refill-kit

If it works, it does look like a painless method of checking & topping up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV3ENoc02wE

Hah that thing is funny but very sledgehammer to the 'just add more sealant' nut cracker.

Or something

Yeah, I have the overpriced stan's syringe. Just squirted some more goop into the front tyre.

Turns out the syringe is overpriced but not but not so overpriced as to have a thread that doesn't allow the goop to piss out over the valve stem.

Still, a pretty minor complaint in the overall scheme.

I have two inflated tyres with an unknown quantity of goop inside. Caffelatex goop at that :-)

Sure there's an easier way...

I refrain from using anything but a normal pump. My 'what if' thinking prevents it. If it wont seal with a normal pump there is some issue with it, try and fix that. IME beads locked with Co2/Bontrager like pumps unlock when deflated.

IME beads locked with Co2/Bontrager like pumps unlock when deflated.

I thought I'd test this and... you are correct.

Looks like I need to apply more rim tape.

Until something gets clogged. The problem with milkit is the lack or replaceable valve cores. I still have not found the need for the milkit valves in my own bikes.

Stab tyre if it seals there's enough. Just joking.

I have wheels were I have had to use compressed air to get the tyre to seat and seal but it is properly locked on place. The solution is generally more tape. On that front getting fed up with having to pay too much for tubeless tape I have decided to get logs of this stuff cut up. It's yellow 150 microns thick and works very well. In fact one well known brand uses this same tape and it sold for far more.

Road lites are like the gp4000s but more comfy and tubeless. They last longer too. The unexplained leak could be the valve core. Replace it.

If you were to write a beginners guide to using tubes it would be similarly long. So what's your point?

There are definitely some issues with dt rims and tubeless tyres. Amey's solution should work but I use fairy liquid or other detergents and if the tyre fails to go up I remove the tyre clean the tape with ipa, and fit more tape then try again. This way there is less mess.

Woops. It was meant as a compliment!

Anyone got a 700x35c marathon supreme they can measure for me? Ideally on a 17mm internal rim. Currently running voyager hypers 32c but vittoria seem to have stopped making them and planet X are out of cheap stock, they run a little big and I think the supremes run a little small so hopefully should have room.

I've got a 35C Marathon Racer off the rim. Flattened out (like in the pic, but obviously smaller and smoother), it's 77mm overall. If you take the same measurement on one of your Vittorias, you'll have a good idea of how they will compare.

I may have a pair of marathon supremes in the shed. Do you want? I'm not going to use them. I'll check the size.

I bought some vittoria hypers from planet x.

Ta.

Maybe, which size/version are they?

I'll take a look tonight and let you know.
I think they're supreme?

Oh. Hang on. Just went back through messages on here (came with the Arkose I have)
38c Marathon Race

Ah, no thanks then, I was going to be fussy about which version of the supreme, let alone a different tyre. I'm in no rush though, voyager hypers are fine but am going to ride to Newquay in the summer and will need new tyres by then.

Maxxis Padrone didn't last two days of South Downs and Surrey Hills; had to put an inner tube in for the last 40k due to multiple leaks.

Apart from that, seems like a nice tyre.