• 1) it's not so much the weight (which does affect it) but the leverage. The supernova carries its weight much further forward from the mount than the edelux, for that reason it is not reccomended for mounting on the guard.

    2) Run dynamo wire down down tube, up seat tube. Drill top of seat post (very easy with Thomson, impossible with enve, various posts are inbetween) then drill out brooks badge, file to marry up with rack mount light holes, use conicular spacers between light and saddle, problem solved!

  • Thanks for the advice. Particularly on the leverage issue with the supernova. Will go down the edelux light. Looking on the Talbot sight I can see you did with the SON rear light too.

  • Anyone else used Shimano brakes with the Easy Hose Joint System? It doesn't fit through the down tube, so I suppose the end needs to be cut off. Did you reuse the insert?

    And can anyone suggest something to blank the Di2 holes in the frame off with?

  • Snip the end off, don't wave it around too much and you'll still be fine.

    Normal di2 grommet with a blob of grease in the back side will be water tight ;)

  • Snip the end off...

    And reuse or replace the insert?

    Normal di2 grommet...

    These?

    I was hoping to find some actual blanks: a cable grommet without a cable looks like a bit of an afterthought. It would be better if the down tube port was left blank, like the seat tube and chain stay ports.

  • Replace. Every one I have bought has come with an extra needle, did yours?

    Ahh sorry, I got confused with what you wanted. Yes I agree, I bought some from maplin or RS which were just blanking ones. I'll try and find the receipt and see which one...

  • No spare inserts.

    Don't worry I'm sure I can find a blank on eBay etc.

  • Arguing with an unnamed jewellery designer turned frame builder. Are these:
    1.Ugly as sin lumps of metal drawn on a computer by someone who knows nothing about design.

    1. Awesome hard as nails drop outs for those in the know, and possibly future winner of the best drop out of all time.

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  • Even moarer


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  • 8/10

  • Looks like

  • Sorry, I'm with Ms Hartley. Looks like they can't decide whether to be chunky and industrial, or curvy and elegant, and end up falling somewhere in between.

  • Look a bit fussy to me.

  • Look a bit like a clumsy version of the vanilla dropout

  • Yeah, i see what you mean re: Vanilla. The problem is that if you want a cowelled drop out in one piece that doesnt have a large excess of material, it is quite hard to not look like that. The Nova drop out, field, vanilla, August etc etc all go about it in a similar way. I'd hoped that putting the frame number plate there would have differentiated it somewhat, but clearly not enough. Throwing away computer now....

  • Speaking of frame numbers, were the batch 1 Isen's stamped?

  • I like the thinner ones on Bastion that extend further down the chainstay. Granted its lugged construction and would mean a chainstay redesign but less busy

  • YEah, on BB.

  • Will have to double check....

    Mine might have been missed?

  • Mine is stamped on my soul

    1. Fillet the internal corners to the kerf width of whatever method you're thinking of using to cut out the logo, which will probably lead you to
    2. Try it with the interior features of the logo deleted, so you just have one big shield shaped cut out.
  • I was thinking of water jet cutting the interior, but yes there is a certain amount of "look at what I've designed and damn the actual construction" in this model.

  • The curves are from the cowls more than anything. I'm not skilled at elegance, so just assume that little bit of it was by accident.

  • I was thinking of water jet cutting

    On a good day, you're looking at 1mm kerf width unless you find somebody with a micro nozzle. That rounds off the internal corners something like this on a shield 28mm high, if your cutout is smaller than that the effect is obviously greater.


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