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  • I have R785. I want the new stuff. I want someone who's used both to 'splain any diffs.

  • I was seeking the same but then just bought the whole groupset yet to be made its way onto a bike. Shimano made a point about lever throw and hood shape so I assume its better not that I have had any issues with R785s.

    @Dick has the R9170 levers but with old calipers so his experience doesent really count. Plus he has never had R785's

    I want someone who has ridden R785 and the old flat mount calipers, SRAM hydro (etap HRD) and new Shimano

  • I haz both - the non series Di2 hydro and the new dura Ace Di2 hydro

    New Di2 is great, the control over Garmin is really useful, and the brakes are better too. Hoods are fractionally shorter and more comfy. I’d upgrade if you have the funds and the option.

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