Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • Tbh arguing about £1k on a car like this is the wrong way of looking at it. If a buyer wants an 850R yours is the one to get as it has everything replaced and is well looked after. If they get something kept even half as good for 8 or even 6, they'll be up at 10 soon enough on maintenance.

    Next car I'm getting should be a well kept peach, and it can cost as much as it likes. I cheapened out this time with the Saab. Sure it's low milage, but I've spent heaps on it since and there's more bills to come. Buy cheap, buy twice.

  • Own a car, pay lots to fix things

    Ftfy

    Cheap or not to begin with doesn't matter ime.

  • Yep, a TFSI. Major pain. Your usage is well within tolerance even if it seems high.

    I had to have a service through Audi before starting the test. They charged $164 for 4.5 litres of oil. I used a litre within 1000 Kay's. Following the procedure is painful but not as bad a forking out 12k for an engine rebuild.
    Tell your mate with the A6 to start getting his service records in order and prepare for a fight or just sell the car on.

  • This is exactly what I'm considering now... Apart from the "good" cars issue my project 505 GTi has hit a roadblock. The mint condition barn find wants $7000 and there's another similar car that needs a little work but is 80% there and it's $700! It's a gamble either way really.

  • Poor oil consumption is a classic Direct Injection is it not? Hence why there was a class action against Audi, but it's not just VAG cars, the R56 Mini had massive issues and BMW said 1L every 1,000 miles too.

    I'm not an expert so I'm just giving my opinion, but I think a lot of people who see it as an issue (beyond the actual cost of adding oil regularly) are people who know some things about cars and have always had cars that never use oil. Now all of a sudden they've got a brand new car and it's using oil, and this is a bad sign to them, it's a new car and it shouldn't use oil, clearly something is wrong, but it's just part and parcel of direct injection. Some cars do it more and some less, and it's easy for me to kick back and have this opinion because I don't have one, but are there any knock on effects beyond the cost of the oil?

  • A litre of quality oil every 1000 miles adds up though, doesn't it?

    My merc drank oil but also gave some back in a nice puddle on our drive way.

  • That should be miles, btw.

    Three weeks in Aus and I am back to metric...

  • Tell your mate with the A6 to start getting his service records in order and prepare for a fight or just sell the car on.

    he's already been given the swerve by audi. he just has a litre of oil in the boot. shame, as it is a nice car.

    is there any way of knowing if they are oil guzzlers, short of long test drive?

  • I've got a 2011 Legacy (gen. V, I don't fit in the gen. IV), I'm a fan

  • This thread needs more Japanese action.

  • Looks like the guy who is banned but loved to argue with @Dammit the most has bought the exact same spec car I'm looking at back in September last year... Just seen some posts on the UK Legacy forums while casually googling tuning potential on a car I haven't even bought yet. Got to research these things right?

    Slight spanner in the works, I accidentally showed Em the full stock list of that importer and she's seen they've got a silver one at the same price, no cruise but panoramic sunroof and the upgraded sound system. Battle has commenced over white and cruise or silver and sunroof and speakers.

    Her cons on white are:

    You already have a white Japanese car
    Big cars shouldn't be white
    Our current big car is silver

    My cons on the silver car:
    No cruise control
    I want to relive my youth when we had a white gen 2 Legacy GT-B

  • silver is a boring colour. dirt looks good on a white car.

  • The West London Racist?

    Anyone knows that the silver paint used by Subaru catches fire unexpectedly when in the U.K.

  • Cruise = essential on boring motorway miles and even more so on average speed sections.
    Pano roof = pointless when driving, hotter in summer, colder in winter

  • ^ +1

    I'd take cruise control over all those option any day of the week

  • Yes, it does. Although the picture is a Westfield kit. Which has one too.

  • Can you retrofit Cruise easily?
    A lot of modern stuff already have it and just need the controls.

  • I was contemplating getting cruise fitted to my Skoda - it costs about £350 and consists of a new stalk, plug in section of loom and a software change

  • Depends if it eGas or cable throttle- eGas and it’s usually trivial, cable throttle less so.

  • I'm assuming by eGas you mean Drive By Wire (DBW) - I have never heard of eGas as an equivalent term before?!

  • Cheers. Makes sense now.

    @danstuff - Yeah I know. But the Westfield kit was literally the closest thing I could find that showed the rear section of a Caterham.

    Just a bit of idle day dreaming really. Bar the most basic Westfield kit most seem a lot more expensive than I thought they'd be.

  • I'm assuming by eGas you mean Drive By Wire (DBW) - I have never heard of eGas as an equivalent term before?!

    Yep, thought it was in common usage.

  • You have spent too much time in the United States.

  • I fitted it to the golf. It was a piece of piss, but I think
    I bought a knock off stalk and now it doesn’t work. Going to reset the computer at next service to see if that sorts it.

  • Just spoke to the importer. It’s been dibsed by someone else with the £250 deposit but he’s sending me over some examples currently going through the auctions that he can import specifically for me.

    However he did explain that the 112mph speed limiter can’t be removed only moved by re-mapping, and the cruise control also only works up to 100km/h or something else pitiful and it needs to be re-mapped to make the cruise control usable.

    He started off telling me this I think to try and sell me the silver car, but then I asked what sort of power can be unlocked by doing a proper map at the same time. We discussed upping the boost for starters and changing how much boost comes in when in the rev range.

    Uh oh.

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