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  • If you like being cold going downhill then no, i guess you don't?

    it is essentially a gilet with arms - designed for a boost to your overall warmth when conditions change quickly (whether that is when you're stopped for a mechanical, before sunrise/after sunset, you're at a cafe stop or you're going down a hill for a long time and the wind is chilly)

    its a pretty versatile garment actually.

  • The flyweight brevet is not that. Try one in a shop. It’s a bin bag with holes around the mid-riff and brevet stripes.

    I tried it on at home and it looked fucking great. Classic Rapha cut, stylish, but I had a sweat on just walking from the bedroom to the kitchen. I imagine any exertion in it and it would be soaking wet in seconds.

    I get really hot to the point that I wear a flyweight jersey instead of a normal jersey and a classic long sleeve is like an insulated winter jersey for me. So I assumed the flyweight would be like a normal jacket, but more lightweight so more suitable for someone who gets really hot, but that’s not what it is. I’m not saying it’s all Raphas fault, I picked the wrong product, but regardless of that, it’s £130 for a bin bag.

  • fair enough - can only speak to the quality of the stuff I've worn.

  • I would have thought that something so light keeping you very warm would be something useful to have on a ride, as @gillies said if you've stopped for a mechanical, cafe stop, or it gets cold suddenly - from the description its purpose is more as an emergency extra layer that barely adds bulk or weight to your pockets, rather than something you wear from start to finish of the ride. And walking around a warm house isn't exactly the best test of a piece of cycling clothing?

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