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Howard
But so you want them for free? That's my point. If we didn't look at it in a gendered way, but rather in terms of someone coming in who was 22 stone and wanting to replace a pair of 26" waist jeans that would be tight on @Howard I would have thought they would be well within their rights to say that they had not been used as intended. Clearly you don't have as much room in the crotch as you thought!