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I believe they're from the same factory, but no way of knowing for sure, I guess.
Perhaps the reason Dengfu don't sell HB086 with the spacer stack design from their HB069 is because that spec. is licensed to PX, PDQ, etc... Oooh speculation!
PX were selling them for £144 (I saw wiv me own eyz) for the first few days of their Fibonacci sale in September/October, before presumably realising their mistake and bumping them back up to something like £233.
Nice to have a warranty anyway.
Cheers. Am I right in thinking the lay up would be the same or is it just the design?
Think I may wait until PX have them on sale again (warranty)