• what's better in the same price range then?

    If price is the main concern, I'd rather ride a decent cantilever/mini-v frame, than a pretty shit disc brake bike.

    Elaborate please?

    Heavy, dull ride. Mine felt similar to On-One Inbreds that I've had and quickly got rid of. And if I wanted a bike for "gravel" I'd get something that could take 40-42c tyres.

  • The Croix de fer can take that big a tyres, abet latest one.

    I did like my old one, it’s not fast, but it’s not a slouch unless you treat it like a road race bike.

  • Gearing is on point and the praxis look great - but the Samox 2-piece on the Arkose X is just a lot better looking and I can't imagine it being more expensive when you buy bulk.

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