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I feel exactly the same about children.

Dogs are alright though.

Not surprising that the man with no friends can’t understand man’s best friend

Had 4 or 5 working dogs on the go at any one time on the farm when I grew up - mostly border collies with occasional novelty Huntaway/sporadic Beagle etc.

I would say that I'm happy to be friendly to dogs, but I'd never want to have one as a pet. I can't handle my mother in law visiting at the best of times - especially now that she insists on abusing her lab retriever by overfeeding it, inexplicably shouting at it and generally being the shittest owner I've ever met - resulting in a confused, arthritic, overweight, unsociable mess at just 5 years old.

I'm also not a big fan of our neighbours who have two enormous white shepherds that they keep in a tiny 2 up 2 down, only sporadically letting them into the back garden. They've never left the house. Neighbour is tiny and the dogs are uncontrollable. When we moved in we had low fences (flimsy and rotten at that). When we did the kitchen I was carrying a delivery in at night with my arm near the edge - he jumped up and bit me, drawing blood. 7 foot reinforced fences went up the next day.

csb - idiots shouldn't be allowed to own dogs.

Just like to reiterate that - they NEVER take these two giant dogs for a walk.

The GMC vindictively going after a Dr, who although she made a mistake, did so in the context of horrific system failings (she was let down by people making decisions behind her back, doing the job of three doctors and one day back from maternity leave).
A lot of very scary implications for Drs, and literally no-one has benefitted in this case. She’s also a Muslim lady, so there’s been some truly awful reporting about the case in the gutter press.
Newshttps://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-leicestershire-42816913
Insightful analysis http://54000doctors.org/blogs/an-account-by-concerned-uk-paediatric-consultants-of-the-tragic-events-surrounding-the-gmc-action-against-dr-bawa-garba.html

report the owners?

My neighbours got a Collie puppy for Xmas. Seen it in their backyard once, not seen it taken for a walk yet.

It is getting very good at barking, at all hours.

Feel sorry for the dog, hasn't a hope of not ending up insane.

That's just too much to handle for one person :(

If one person makes a mistake and the team is well informed, paperwork is good etc. Somebody else can spot it. But reading this, it was just chaos.

A well-trained dog doesn't bark. It's very easy to train your dog to bark accidentally by responding to it when it makes a lot of noise. The dog learns that if he barks he's going to get attention from you. If the owner is aware of this and doesn't reward the dog for barking then it will very rarely make any noise (only if it's in pain, extremely scared, etc.).

Secondly, a well-trained dog shouldn't jump at people, because as you say it can be intimidating. People think it's cute when the dog's a puppy and so again the dog learns that jumping up at people gets attention. By the time it grows into a full-size dog it's scary but the dog has learned to do it and the (bad) owner just thinks "oh, that's just what my dog likes to do", unaware that they failed to train it not to jump.

Thirdly a dog doesn't need 24/7 care. Would you want to be surrounded by people 24/7? Or do you prefer a bit of alone time on occasion?

Fourthly I disagree that you need to "consent" to interact with a dog. I don't consent to chuggers harassing me, but that's just how things are. If you're walking around in a modern city you're going to encounter dogs and have to "interact" with them. (Of course, the dog shouldn't touch you without you signalling to it or stroking it. And you obviously are within your rights to say "please keep that dog away from me" to the owner. And the dog, being well-trained, should listen to its owner and stay away from you.)

Fifthly, I don't agree that we should let dogs die without operations. Do you say the same about old people or people with disabilities? The dog doesn't have the ability to express itself and so the only humane thing to do is to assume that it wants to live. It can't exactly sign a DNR, can it?

Regarding dog shit; how come you aren't wearing a sign informing me that you wipe your own arse or the arses of your children?

Dog owners are selfish and don't care about the effect their dogs have on others.

I think you are selfish for wanting to impose your own weird set of fears on the whole of society. There are people out there who are afraid of buttons; does that make it selfish to wear a shirt with buttons on?

And the harm they do to relationships - friends and family you can't invite round because you know that there is no acceptable way of dealing with the over-sized smelly menagerie that will acccompany them).

I don't think you can blame the dog for you failing to interact with your family and friends. You can blame the owners for getting a dog in spite of you warning them in advance that "if you get a dog I won't be able to have you over to my house" (which I assume you did, of course?). Why not make alternative arrangements with them? Just explain that your partner has a phobia of dogs and you can't see them when the dog is present. Perhaps offer to pay for a dog-sitter. If you haven't told them any of this and just fob them off when they want to visit then it's your fault that the relationship is suffering.

Yeah, could get the dogs taken away and given to better owners. If you tell them it's drawn blood I think they have to "destroy" the dog.

fundraising for legal fees and some other background - https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/help-dr-bawa-garba/

They can't go on walks until they've had all their vaccinations. Should be at most like a month before he's allowed out. But they can't walk far when they're pups so even then he won't be out for long (the rule is 5 mins walk per month of the dog's life, so a 4-month-old dog only needs a 20 minute walk).

The barking also shouldn't last long. It takes a while for them to get used to being alone overnight, just like a baby.

This is all assuming they aren't just bad owners of course.

Sorry for the dog spam all over the thread everyone, but we just got a dog so I've been doing a lot of reading on the topic. Here he is.

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Oh look - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/28/fitness-tracking-app-gives-away-location-of-secret-us-army-bases

Except you can see French, Turkish and Russian bases too, apparently. Interestingly Strava doesn’t seem popular with the Iranian military.

Wow, he's super cute.

Disgusting.
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I hope this is the case.

I'm the very peripheral LFGSS character, 'Malaconotus'. I lurk a lot and post only occasionally. I like to think it's like being a regular extra in the Queen Vic who gets a speaking role ordering a round once a year. So never anywhere close to earning Lynchman or Jeez's infamy. I genuinely have no idea why I have a new anonyhandle. I really am not very good with IT, or dogs. I don't know where email comes into it but the email account 'Malaconotus' was originally linked to is not one I can access any more.

Okay - Velocio can fix that for you, you know. Brand new users launching into a debate on the news thread are unusual, to say the least...

(Brand new) users agreeing with @jeez are unusual, to say the least...

ftfy

Super super scary - literally every dr has been in sitauations like this, and now they’re asking why they should carry on making such huge personal sacrifices if this is the reward.

Man bites dog - that's news
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-hampshire-boscawen-man-charged-with-biting-police-dog-veda/

More Froome stuff
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jan/30/chris-froome-plea-bargain-drug-test-untrue-sky
Mainly sharing for this - the breathlessness for a Tour level rider doing basically a long day’s audax is funny.

Froome is training near his home in Johannesburg, where he completed an astonishing 271.65km (168.8 miles) ride this week with only two breaks in seven hours, longer than almost any stage last year.

He would’ve fallen foul of Audax UK’s maximum speed rule. By some margin.

I doubt being motor paced by someone on a scooter fits with their self sufficient ethos either.