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Sorry, yeah, i forgot that R8070 was available now - the ONLY reason i went with the DA9170 was because ultegra wasn t out yet.
R785 are a nicer shifter look and shape than etap - had the DA not come out by the time i needed them id have stuck with R785 (i actually bought R785 as first choice at the time of first buying the frame - by the time the paint was done and cured DA9170 had arrived!)