Strength / Weight Training

Deadlift grip options discussed here with info on straps -

https://www.muscleforlife.com/deadlift-grip/

Some people love straps, I can't deal with them. So try and see, but I found plate holds and other grip work with mixed grip got me holding 180 rack pulls when needed.

It's not the cost, it's the space or lack of it. I live in a flat in London. I've seen bigger dog kennels in proper countries.

Kit cheap, space expensive. I could buy the equipment I use in the gym for about 1 year gym fees.

I was back in this morning. No deadlifts though, pretty tight hammies.

I tried shifting my grip on dumbells doing a floor to ceiling move and it helped so I will give it a go next week with the barball. No trainer next week so might sneak into my mate's gym again and get some squats in. Need to hit my turbo targets too though and my long rides on the weekend so shit's starting to get busy now.

First thing will be trying to shuffle the bar (ooh nurse) about 1cm further along my hand. If that fails then I'll try the hook grip and then if that fails I will kick a kettlebell and go ride my bike (okay, maybe try straps).

Why u no mixed grip?

https://www.builtlean.com/2014/02/10/grip-strength-exercises/ grip work, it's not sexy, but it works :)

TGR's article says "At a certain point–about 1.5 times bodyweight, for most–your fingers are going to start giving out, causing the bar to roll out of your hands, and when that happens, force production comes to a screeching halt and you get stuck."

I'm already doing >1.5xBW with a normal (shitty) grip so I think my grip strength is pretty good (the irony being a hospital visit for knuckle arthritis that I think was actually inflammation caused by anticoag). I didn't want to try mixed grip because I don't like the asymmetry. I'm going to adjust my grip if I do some next week - first moving bar towards my fingers and then trying the hook grip. No trainer though so probably won't be lifting as heavy. Because I don't want to be the cock that drops the bar trying too much weight.

FWIW the hook grip keeps symmetry. I find it ok - after getting used to it. It will feel odd to begin with but it didn’t take long to get in the way of it.

As mentioned previously- each to their own.

Not that impresive; I'm looking to squat my bw 5 reps not 1 rep bwx5. I wouldn't be able to cycle I think. 😂

phew!

This is a worthwhile read -

https://startingstrength.com/article/lifts_vs_assistance_exercises

All this grip chat got me trying hookgrip again today. Borrowed some chalk this time and holy fuck it's suddenly magic. Two bruised thumbs and a couple of rep PRs. Woo!

I think I'd still recommend straps for non-strengthsport purposes though. If they're good enough for Eddie Hall...

Glad to be of help!! 😀😀

And congrats on your new PBs

The internet is great!!!! I am an avid viewer of Reddit - usually for funny videos and memes etc. A lot of stuff appears there before LFGSS.

I happened to have a search for StrongLifts and Starting Strength on it and found the both have sub-forums there. A load of useful info is available. Also, some rubbish. The most interesting thing I saw was on the SL forum. People post vids and ask for form checks. From what I saw, if they had read the Starting Strength book, they could answer their own queries.

Hippie- you need that book!

Nah, I have you lot :P

As for that article above, I get what he's saying but he's coming at it from a strength coach point of view. I'm "just exercising" but I'm still getting stronger. But I'm not training to get stronger, it's just happening because I'm exercising in a gym. Thing is, that's why I like it. It's doing exactly what it's supposed to do. It's cross training for cycling during the off season. I'm not trying to lift more (though I am) and I'm not doing anything cycling-specific, the whole point of me going to the gym is to be active but not cycling. It's to burn some calories and add some muscle and address some imbalances, it's not to compete in weight lifting comps or tone my arms or whatever normal people are doing in the gym.
If I stopped going to the gym and started skateboarding, I wouldn't be going "oh I need to do 1400 left leg pumps and 1400 right leg pumps and work on my kickflip" I'd just be hooning around on a skateboard (NB: I can't skate this is just a random choice of physical activity to make a point). So unless Rippetoe rides across America he can fuck off :)
But I'll get his book...

But I'll get his book...

Only £7.52 if you get the Kindle edition...

The article interested me because it made me think about the reasons for doing weights - which leads on to goal setting. As ‘exercising’ it is brilliant.

The downside relates to form, if exercising, you still need proper form to avoid injuries. The book I mentioned is useful 😀😀😀

This link is worth a look. It provides info on strength standards. It will give you an idea how you compare to people of similar age, weight and experience.

http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.html

I'm only good at deadlifts. Fuck it, I'm going skateboarding.

http://www.cyclist.co.uk/tutorials/747/strength-training-for-cyclists

Appeared on Twitter. Not read it.

Replying so I can find this easily. Thanks.

I have this somewhere in the house but I haven’t read it! Apparently it is good. Perhaps someone here has read it.

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Friel's seen as a bit of an authority. Very much a focus on metric-based on the bike training though.