• It's quite possible that I might gain the wrong impression, but I'm not conducting anything scientific here, so I'm not imagining I'm reaching any reliable conclusions. :)

    Also, crashes into lampposts or trees are reportedly extremely rare--there are research papers on it. What I've seen so far is that most crashes into a narrow object at fairly high speed causes the vehicle to wrap itself around the obstacle and the usual protection against head-on crashes doesn't work. At lower speeds (no idea what the limit is), the car just comes to a halt, and when steering correction is still possible, this results in glancing blows.

    Again, that may all be bollocks.

  • A lot of (newer) lampposts are designed to break away from their bases when struck - that's why it's normally trees not lampposts that do the damage. There's some interesting info here if you want. (Of course you do - you're Oliver!)

  • Thanks, I probably should have thought that someone would have that stupid idea, but I didn't.

    It's been the same since the start of motoring--blame the environment, not the driver, then try to change the environment. It never works, only causes faster driving and its consequent problems. People thinking that crashing into posts is no longer a problem will drive less carefully. Trees? Oh, you just chop them down--like in Germany in the 60s, to facilitate widening roads. The slogan then was 'every tree is a potential murderer', citing those well-known murderous intentions that trees have.

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