• I pre-ordered a Karoo ages ago. They've said they'll ship them by the end of the month. If they do, then fine. If they don't, I'll be asking for a refund. Given that they've proved themselves to be lying weasels as well as hopeless optimists, my good will towards them as well as my patience has run out.

  • This is where I am. Very tempted to ask for the refund now but the other options don’t seem that appealing.

    £499 for a Garmin 1030? Jesus.

  • This is where I am. Very tempted to ask for the refund now but the other options don’t seem that appealing.

    True, but for me the point of buying a Karoo was to avoid the PITA associated with still using Garmins. The Karoo already feels like a PITA, and I haven't even got it yet.

    £499 for a Garmin 1030? Jesus.

    Half a bag of sand for the privilege of being a beta tester on a flakey bag of crap. Yay. I'll take two.

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