• It could be a safety issue so I'll continue to disagree rather than abandon.
    I'm not advocating accelerating or cycling dangerously at any obstacles. I said that best practice is to maintain a line which is established early, whilst prepared to slow down if necessary.
    I agree that we should give way if it avoids an accident (highway code is quite explicit about this). But I don't agree that slowing down every time traffic needs to pass a bus is the safest approach. Nor do I believe it's safe to pull out to within inches of flowing traffic (which may or may not be prepared to stop).
    For the same reason, in RTCs blame is not always apportioned to the person who is behind. Other road users changing lanes/position is typically accepted as an exception.

    Ultimately I agree with JWestland. I'll take my lane and be prepared to slow if somebody moves into my path.
    Open to discuss it privately if you'd prefer or this gets popcorny.

  • No popcorn here, we're always cool mate. <3

    I think you're approaching this thinking of someone just swinging out from your left without looking which is always dodgy and I'm with you on that being dangerous and you don't manoeuvre without checking it's safe to do so.

    I'm talking about when I'm riding primary behind a bus in line with the right hand light cluster waiting for the space to open when it pulls into the stop so i can overtake within the lane/between lanes. where due to proximity I have to slow, to give me time to make the manoeuvre and also check it's safe to do so. Whereas people further behind can use their increased distance to immediately veer right without having to decelerate as much, so rather than match the speed of prevailing traffic and allow the people ahead to navigate the obstruction safely, they decide that they will maintain speed and force their way past (overtaking someone already overtaking).

    if the road is narrowing from an entire lane to 2ft wide space and someone's first thought is to try and overtake the person in front of them in the tiny gap the only person they're considering is themselves and that's always going to be dangerous.

  • Love you too.
    You're right. I misinterpreted your original post. My mistake sorry.
    We're on the same page :)

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