• Yeah, I think I need more road-oriented just with fatter tyre capability.
    The Kinesis 4S Disc was pretty good - it could fit 32mm (35mm if no risk of mud).

    Lots of the adventure bikes are too short and/or too tall.
    I need Stack and Reach around 585 / 395. The 57cm 4S worked pretty well, though even that could've been longer/lower.

    Steel, carbon or alu. The only reason I ignore Ti is that it's more expensive for little benefit.

  • Yeah endurance/gravel bikes tend to be short and tall headtube. That's one of the reasons I've liked the long and low Surly. Buy a Straggler :D

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