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  • Chiswick residents share their thoughts on CS9:

    https://twitter.com/Hackneycyclist/status/918171735534592000

  • The portion of the East-West route has opened between Parliament Square and Hyde Park Corner.

    Quite lovely this morning

  • I'll have to check it out.
    What's the plan further west since the a40 westway section has been axed?
    I would like to see it head through high street ken. But they are not playing ball.
    Linking up in Hammersmith with cs9 eventually.
    One day perhaps you could cycle all the way to Heathrow.

  • It goes to Paddington (and beyond) but that isn't my route home so I don't know. Light sequence is a little odd into Birdcage Walk, but it is really quite nice.

    It is a shame as soon as you leave the park near the Albert Memorial it is a bit shit. However am sure Kensington and Chelsea council might one day start to do nice things for their residents who aren't billionaires...[that's enough politics, Ed]

  • They've also timed the lights at Hyde Park Corner to ensure that cyclists going North have to wait for 3 cycles (one crossing onto the roundabout, then two leaving it).

  • One day perhaps you could cycle all the way to Heathrow.

    I did that the other day.

    I used roads.

    (and a canal path)

  • OK - tl:cr -
    what is the summary of the good summary ?

  • Khans given up, CS9 is reasonable.

  • The missing section on high street kensington still don't make sense.


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  • Well K&C don't want any segregation, so it does make sense.

  • That's the bit that don't make sense..
    When the congestion charge got put by red ken against the wishes of the borough then why not this?

  • That was a pretty good read, although it seems a bit of a damning indictment on the current cycling commissioner that they've got the old one in to tell them what they're doing wrong.

    He's right though, it appears that momentum has gone from the various cycling schemes that were being talked about and it's all just words from Khan now.

  • From the sound of things the majority of roads are under the control of the council and the mayor doesn't have the power to force them to do anything.

  • We have seen the business-owner who led the opposition to the Mini-Holland scheme, whom I last saw carrying a golden coffin at the opening of the Mini-Holland in 2015, opening a pavement café because of the improved environment we have in Orford Road
    now.

  • TfL (and therefore the Mayor) control TLRN roads, which are the ones with double red lines instead of yellow. These make up about 4% of London’s roads and tend to be bigger arterial ones. The 32 boroughs and the City of London control the rest.

    The Mayor could build Cycle Superhighways on TLRN tomorrow, in theory, but has to get council approval for any changes to borough roads.

  • So how did the c charge get it then?

  • Simply the fact it doesn’t need a change in infrastructure, unlike the superhighway

  • I believe primary legislation was passed to allow the Congestion Charge. So councils weren’t part of that decision.

  • I believe primary legislation was passed to allow the Congestion Charge. So councils weren’t part of that decision.

    Which harks back to the central message of that summary, meaningful change requires political will and Khan has none.

  • I believe primary legislation was passed to allow the Congestion Charge. So councils weren’t part of that decision.

    That’s correct--the main powers were given by the GLA Act 1999 and the Transport Act 2000.

    It's a very old policy idea, dating back to the 60s at least, and Livingstone always wanted to do it when he was at the GLC. Needless to say, with a Thatcher government there wasn't a chance to get it into law, and it only did become law in 1999/2000 (one thing to realise about all these policies is that they can take decades to mature), which in a sense was much too late--and as it was always flawed (the charge too low, not tied to some kind of progressive index like inflation, implemented using technology that soon became outdated, etc.), it was never a very powerful tool to really reduce levels of motor traffic sustainably beyond its initial impact. The fact that London grew so much during that period obviously didn’t help, but this was undoubtedly also partly caused by increasing global perception of London as a more liveable city, which in turn was certainly caused by Congestion Charging.

  • Simply the fact it doesn’t need a change in infrastructure, unlike the superhighway

    I know what you mean, Ed, but be aware that 'infrastructure' is a much wider term and encompasses things like the number plate recognition technology that the Congestion Charging Zone required. It was a very big infrastructure project not only because of that but also because of the establishment of the Inner Ring Road (around the CCZ), which was basically a cack-handed version of Abercrombie's Inner Ring Road (search for Greater London Plan). That required major changes to all the streets on it.

  • Vincent Stops complaining about CS6 narrowing pavements. https://twitter.com/AsEasyAsRiding/status/946705080807542785

    Except they've been widened...

  • Was riding south on Q1 through Covent Garden and when you hit Gt Queen St junction with Newton St the Q1 arrow painted on the road is pointing left to Queensway when Q1 route is right to Drury Lane

    At this junction

    https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.516025,-0.1206563,3a,75y,149.18h,65.2t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbNeADiZBsBI_BqozpJL_zQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

  • TIL there are two different Q1s.

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