Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • Yes it will select gears with the engine off without effort so the gearbox selector works. The clutch plate must not be moving. I would have though if the trust whatever it is that connects to the slave cylinder was broken the pedal would feel light. It feels normal.

  • Has it stood for a while? The clutch might just be stuck on. Starting it in first often frees it.

  • My clutch and dual mass flywheel dropped a bollock earlier in the year. Car would not go into gear. 2k later all good. 😎

  • This a petrol avensis then? Think there was just a 1.8 and maybe a 2.0 available, both very reliable but very underpowered and surprisingly thirsty. The diesel engine of that era was excellent, the newer avensis (2010 on shape) was not a patch, quite weak turbo and fueling system.

    Rust unlikely to be serious, middling jap saloons just gt surface rust all over in a fairly bad way from jist a few years old, would jist brush down, cold galvo spray and maybe some Hammerite over top of really bothered.

  • Only just seen this...

    I love the forum logic. 535d is dirty so buy a v10 petrol....!

    According to

  • It drove fine yesterday. I am hoping it is the cold that has caused the problem and all will be well when it is warm again. I have tried starting in gear. It wont start it tries to lurch forward. I dont want to damage stuff. That clutch cist me alot of money earlier this year when it went properly wrong.

  • Only just seen this...

    I love the forum logic. 535d is dirty so buy a v10 petrol....!

    According to nextgreencar.com the following would be annual emissions based on 5k miles:

    535d

    • 2.6 tonnes of co2
    • 5.78 Kg (yes kilograms) of NOx+PMs

    M5

    • 4.36 tonnes of co2
    • 3.42 Kg of NOx+PMs

    In reality, the v10 M5 is a much higher pollutant than the 535d would ever be.

    Sure, a 20 yr old French diesel will pump out some nasty shit but a euro5 or euro6 diesel will actually produce similar results to the equivalent petrol engine (the v10 is not equivalent).

  • So the M5 produces 2 whole more tonnes of lovely life-giving CO2 (ask any plant, it’s not a sodding pollutant) but 2.36 fewer KGs of definitely carcinogenic and noxious NOx and particulates.

    Yep, no question it’s a greener car. Not that I give a crap really :-)

  • Blah blah blah.

    Your point in invalid because look at Dammit carbon footprint for all those flights. Also you have no soul. The sound of v8, v10 and v12 are lovely...straight4 pots don't sound the same.

  • My point is that you can't discount the 535d on the basis of its green credentials and then recommend an M5.

    There's plenty of other, real, reasons for preferring the M5 instead of a cheap shot that doesn't actually ring true.

  • The clutch plate must not be moving

    Yep, just had the exact same thing happen. New clutch and all is well now. Flywheel was ok thankfully so slightly smaller bill than @Ordinata 's 😉

  • True.

    If you want green credential buy a prius and be smug...

    Has the zoe and leaf taken over on the smugness stakes.

  • 535d = big dollops of low end shove that is fun for a while then gets boring.

    m5 gets you high rpm tingles that are addictive.

    I'd take the m5. But it's not my money and my opinion is based on internet reviews...

  • Or merc amg. If you want to be electric smug buy a tesla model a. Fast and all electric. I want one. Now how do I make that kind of money.

  • An average tree can process 1 tonne of co2 in 40 years so 2 tonnes extra definitely makes a difference whether you like it or not...

    It absolutely is a pollutant in the quantities we, as a species, are generating at.

  • Ok, here's a side-by-side of two M5's for sale at the moment, first car has 80,000 miles, the second has 52,000. As the term of ownership increases the lower mileage car starts to win.


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  • I have tried starting in gear. It wont start it tries to lurch forward. I dont want to damage stuff.

    That’s the idea, keep turning it on the starter until it’s driving then a bit of heat and shock will free it. But fair enough if you’re not confident, especially as it’s new. Time to get it recovered to the garage that fitted it.

  • a 20 yr old French diesel will pump out some nasty shit

    French ones more than other from same era?

  • This a petrol avensis then? Think there was just a 1.8 and maybe a 2.0 available

    It's the 1.8, yes petrol consumption doesn't seem great, but we won't do much miles with it.

    We went for it because of supposed reliability (internet reviews also knew a mini cab driver who had one and had been extremely happy with it). The driveshaft is a massive setback obviously, but we're giving the "fix" option a chance on this occasion...

    Boring car interlude over, as you were peeps...

  • Renault and PSA have historically developed some of the highest polluting diesel engines ever put into cars / vans.

    They also were one of the earliest nations where the major manufacturers adopted diesel engines in cars.

    Even their latest euro5 and euro6 spec engines pump out more nox, on average, than most other major engine manufacturers:


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  • Dammit lives in Forest Hill, so he's probably got loads of trees to soak up the extra. Should be fine.

    Nothing soaks up particulates.

  • Bit of a late reply, but based on your use have you added up the cost of a zip car subscription plus rental for those 2 trips to France?

    MOT, insurance, tax, residents permit have got to leave you with fixed costs of £500-700p/a.

  • Ok, this looks like the better option is the lower mileage car. But I don't like the wheels or the colour.


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  • We can see by your Porsche exploits that a detailed, rigorous cost-benefit analysis is always at the core of your car purchases

  • I think the phrase is "once bitten twice shy".

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