• People who think all cars are boring clearly haven't driven anything nice. I wonder why they are on this thread.

  • Scrap, it's an avensis. Boring or not a knackered and potentially rusty car is not a safe family shuttle. Do you want a subframe collapse on the motorway?
    Edit, this was a reply in general...

  • If it turns out to be as bad as that (garage in France said it was nowhere near this, hence I hope it's manageable) I would obviously go for scrap option.

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