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  • The former Conservative councillor, has had similar signs on his land since 2009.
    He said: "I shall still stand up for what I believe in.”

    No surprises

  • I’ve seen this view (or similar sentiments) expressed on here before... Leaving your friends/community behind and living amongst backwards yokels is not that great for white people either.

  • Being called backward yokels by blowins who've bought big house in town thanks to their success in being at the to place at the right time but who now need to move is a bit fucking galling actually.

  • My point is that I don’t think the general public are backwards yokels, otherwise it wouldn’t be worth the trade off of losing friends/community.
    The privilege is being in London and having your house double in value through no hard work of your own.
    Edit: and if you mean me specifically, I grew up in this town and I’ll call the inhabitants whatever I want 😘

  • My point is (i don't know you): calling the people you're now living with "backward yokels" is not going to help is it? They may well be racist fucks, the signs indicate this (with gollywogs and "no poles"), but it's not going to help if you've contributing to the them and us. Shouldn't it be "those locals are racist, but these ones aren't"?
    I don't know.

  • You did it.

  • #rep

    getting back to SE6 now, it was too much for me.

  • or this -https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/nov/08/landlord-ban-coloured-tenants-unlawful-court-rules-equality-watchdog

    “I refuse to take tenants from a group of people that produce curry smells. I take just about anyone except Pakistanis and Indians.”

  • That child up there on the knitting pattern is way too old to be in that pushchair.

  • As a trainee reporter in Northumberland I got turfed out of the office to find some stories. Spotted a shop selling golliwogs, got some pics and trotted back to the news desk. They didn't rate my scoop. This was ~10 years back though.

    CSB...

  • Not to downplay the difficulties in moving from liberal cosmopolitan town to less liberal rural/town setting, but it doesn't really compare to being lone dark face in a white space.
    As much as we hope race relations are moving forward, events of the last 12/18 months have shown that it doesn't take much for the under the surface, historical prejudices and viewpoints to rear their heads. And make life in less liberal/metropolitan spaces even more difficult to exist in for those who are dark of skin, whether they are first, second or third generation immigrants.

  • Any cunt who uses the phrase "political correctness gone mad" needs slapping really fucking hard, repeatedly.

  • Oh la la!

  • A very well written and enjoyable read. Agreed an update is needed!

  • Not to downplay the difficulties in moving from liberal cosmopolitan town to less liberal rural/town setting, but it doesn't really compare to being lone dark face in a white space.

    The stark truth of this is really hard for ethnically european people like me to conceive of, until they spend some time with someone with visibly non-european ethnicity in a rural / provincial place. The rudeness, staring, and weirdness shown to friends of mine in those places whilst in the sticks is absolutely medieval.

  • Yes I don’t want to imply they are comparable, especially not having that lived experience but I do question the ‘lone’ part and the idea that outside London, England is entirely ethnically non-diverse.
    I think my point is that this is one (albeit large) of a number of factors to weigh up and to say that leaving London is ‘white’ privilege when areas could vary from being unpleasant for anyone (of any colour) with a different accent, to being extremely multi-cultural and accepting is to simplify things too far.

  • Oh yeah, you’ve just reminded me of the ridiculous comments some darker-skinned (distant Maltese blood, I think) but very British friends got in a Norfolk pub. 😳

  • Oversimplification; maybe. But you can't deny that.

    I have no inclination to leave London, I just love it too much but if I do get tired of it at some point, I won't have the choice to move out to the sticks.

    And even if I was white; frankly; I'd chose to die with my lungs filled with PM2.5 than live in little britain. Its sad that the choice is between those two things.

  • Given the hostility I’ve (basic white person) experienced in parts of the UK I understand that view but all I can say is it’s not all like that!

    Edit: oh sneaky edit! I don’t think it is a binary choice, there are plenty of non-sticks places that aren’t London, from the other cities down to medium-sized towns. Although if you still love London, no-where else will do.

  • The kinda point of the DFL blog is that I'm well award of my white privilege in being able to move out. I'm hoping that it's apparent that any gentle fish-out-of-water amusement arising from the situation is entirely at my own expense. The point is that any anxiety on my part is inherently absurd. And yet it's real to me. The joke is that I've lived for years surrounded by identikit double denim dads easting smashed avocado and sourdough in a neighbourhood which was gentrified at an alarming rate over the last few years and now "my kind" are invading the edge-lands and quite understandably being labelled as toxic outsiders.

    When I googled the term DFL I found a raft of blogs detailing the impact on the local area by blow ins who refuse to assimilate and bring only expensive coffee, craft beer and rising house prices. I thought it would be fun to write some shit from the perspective of someone struggling to avoiding being the problem whilst coming to term with a big lifestyle shift to a new area and culture.

    I understand that this does not in any way equate to the issues being dealt with by underprivileged minorities struggling to assimilate in a hostile white communities for the last hundred years or more. I had hoped that this was evident in the tone and content of the blog and that the very smallness of the issue at hand was key to the comedy. If i've massively miscalculated I may reconsider. I hope it'll be received as intended though.

  • Yes, I loved Margate, Birmingham, Bristol, Leeds when I visited and could easily see my self living there but it'll be trading one city for other hardly any point.

    Also soz @Fatberg for derail, i didn't realise you wrote that. It is amusing yes! Keep going.

    PS: You are a handsome man.

  • Haven't been back to the pub yet btw. I considered telling my missis that I wanted to nip out to the offending local to raise the golliwog issue last night but was afraid she'd see through the fact that I only wanted to go because I'd drunk all the beers in the house.

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