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• #2
No comprende
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• #3
Simple: People suffer head injuries in variety in incidents (non cycle related) where a helmet may have helped. It'll be interested to see patterns, and causes of head injuries that may have been prevented with a helmet
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• #4
Hmm. I kind of get the point, but it's still distasteful victim-blaming (even if its purpose is to highlight how widely accepted victim blaming cyclists is). And to an extent where it even feels like schadenfreude (but I'm projecting on this point).
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• #5
It'll be interested to see patterns etc
Will it? It appears disingenuous.
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• #6
The 28 year old suffered a brain injury in 2004 when she fell downstairs at home,
Ogiame Atuwatse II, likely died from a brain injury he suffered after
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• #7
Exactly.
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• #8
Shouldn't the same rules or considerations apply? How someone or someone's family would feel coming across this thread? Just for you to make a point?
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• #10
How someone or someone's family would feel
every time a newspaper suggests that cyclists was/wasn't wearing a helmet. Which they do every time they report a cycle crash
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• #11
No, I meant you saying "it'll be interesting" seemed disingenuous.
Anyway, I get it, as I already said.I'm going to stop arguing because I think you understand my point and we simply disagree - I don't agree that making others experience the same sick feeling, is in anyway useful in your intended outcome, or at least not in a justifiable way. Making the population at large feel some aspect of what "cyclists" feel - sure. But specific, real individuals (who have suffered injuries or bereavement)? No way.
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• #12
But which we do not do *here*
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• #13
You do have a point. I suppose I thought this a useful record similar to @Oliver Schick cars crashing into buildings thread.
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• #14
If all the reports are from news already to there I don't see any issue with relatives coming across this thread. I think it will be a useful location to point people to so as to make the case for equity in the treatment of cyclists injured whilst not wearing a helmet.
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• #15
Fucking @Oliver Schick blaming buildings for being crashed into. WAC etc etc
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• #16
Lawyers defending injured cyclists from a claim for contributory negligence will have a much easier task.
You think?
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• #17
If all the reports are from news already to there I don't see any issue with relatives coming across this thread.
You really can't see the issue of an news article on a traumatic event, being used as an agenda for something unrelated, having any impact for those concerned?
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• #18
I hope
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• #19
No
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• #20
The point is not to blame anyone for anything.
Of course it's equally absurd to insist on wearing a helmet for climbing stairs as it is for cycling or driving.
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• #21
Going ice skating this Xmas? Yeah me too.
Absolutely no reason for anyone to be wearing a helmet or hi viz there, I mean no one ever falls over unintentionally, with others skating past their hands on metal blades. -
• #22
If only she was wearing a helmet, nobody ever mentioned it at the time:
https://youtu.be/bKK6c_hd9Y8
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• #23
terrible, If only they'd worn a helmet
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• #24
daily news reports please, heres one from Poole, http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/15777293.Driver_rescued_from_sunken_car_which_plunged_into_waters_at_Poole_s_quayside/?ref=mr&lp=2
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• #25
impossible to know how these daily incidents occur, cars flipping, all sorts of unaccountable incidents, if only they'd worn a helmet
A place to document incidents where a helmet may have prevented injury.
For example:
http://amp.ktvu.com/news/san-francisco-3-year-old-suffers-traumatic-brain-injury
http://www.omaha.com/news/crime/people-are-injured-in--vehicle-crash-in-northeast-omaha/article_00535f98-e1ad-11e7-9d58-c7e82a352007.html
http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Appleton-Police-investigate-report-of-bullying-at-elementary-school-463945323.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-who-suffered-brain-injury-10976209
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4268943/tanning-sunbed-too-long-mum-left-coma-gillingham-caroline-wood/
http://www.fieldfisher.com/personalinjury/case-studies/brain-injury/barrister-who-suffered-brain-injury-recovers-substantial-compensation