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  • Going to Everest Base Camp in about a year and do a bit of winter stuff up here in Scotland. Grappling with choosing a sleeping bag that's comfortable to -13 or so. Seems that nothing synthetic matches down in terms of weight/warmth/pack size... although they do have the waterproofiness advantage.

    Any one have any suggestions for something non-down? I might try to get a second-hand down one otherwise.

    Edit: how ethical is ethical down? Am I better with natural/biodegradable down than synthetic stuff produced from oil? Apparently down has a lower carbon footprint? And so on... Just looking for random opinions basically.

  • This is the sort of thing I struggle with. Usually for me it’s wool. Is it more ethical to but something made from petrochemicals or an eco alternative (bamboo or hemp or something) that’s been shipped halfway around the world.

  • You might get there if you combine it with a fleece liner and a outer layer.
    Ethical down is just csr mumbo jumbo to me, just like ethical slaughter. However, down is hands down the best material, so I would look into second hand or borrowing - and stay out of sight from the vegan police

  • I think it depends in part on what down you use. Eider down is (I've been told by a sign at Barnes WWT) is the baby Eider duck moultings as they fledge (or maybe shed winter feathers). So if it's Eider down then it's picking up duck left overs. Is that exploitation? Does it deprive other ducks of material for their nests? Haven't a trucking clue. But when I read the sign I was slightly surprised as I'd always assumed it was left over dead ducks.

    Edit - this might be shite and the sign was a lie.

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