• But yes maybe they think they have nothing to lose and are wrong, or genuinely don't have anything to lose

    yes, this.

    I am genuinely looking for outside the bubble views on the current state of affairs. How is this justified in the bigger picture that Brexiteers have.

  • Well, it seems some people value things like "country" and "freedom" and "the EU has done bad stuff" over "can I eat and work?"

    Welcome to humans, where imaginary concepts sometimes take over.

    The leave campaign of course knew this, and input things like "sovereignty" "democracy" and terms they didn't define well, added a sprinkling of £ (THE bus) and then some basic fear mongering (immigrants)

    Lexit, in fairness, pointed out -some- things the EU isn't doing right like how they treat refugees...there is no compromise with Lexit. No realpolitik. And, if I am being unkind, not enough cynicism.

    I'm of the type that if by following your ideals you end up with WORSE results, you need to adjust. Others would say that muddles everything and compromises you. It's not a question that has a "right" answer. So, I sorta respect people with left ideals, but it's still dumb.

    But even with a lexit, we'd all be much poorer, and economic downturns cause victims...especially if the left is not in power.

    (you could argue it's just hubris to call for this in tory country, I mean come on....that's the revolution bit maybe, break the system and hope people come to you?)

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