I hate

The labour manifesto includes higher tax for individuals for a start.

and i'm okay with that.

They're going to close the pay gap between public and private sectors, and how are they going to fund that? Free higher education, where's that money coming from?

some of that extra money from you and i, not to mention increases in corporation tax. a better paid public sector = more money going back into the economy. austerity doesn't fucking work.

Based on my experience they'll tax those in the middle and mortgage it for later generations.

ok

Workers rights should be protected but trade unions are not the way to do that.

trade unions are probably the only organisations standing in the way of the tory party and the bonfire of workers rights they have planned post-brexit - if we ever fucking get there.

Re-introducing and supplementing industries in which we're not competitive will create protectionism and the immigration policy will reinforce that.

such as?

Income tax is the most fair tax too, it's been reduced massively and swapped for less progressive taxes, like higher VAT which affects those with less, more. Plus you only pay more on the higher amounts you earn, everyone complains that "oh no, I'll earn more hit a higher bracket, why bother earning more at all?" But you'll pay the same as everyone else on the first bits you earn and more on the higher bits you need less of, it's actually fucking fair and should be higher and maybe have a few more brackets, stick 90% on everything over a few million or something, who the fuck needs all that and if they're earning it they'll be able to earn plenty more so I can get free fags, beer and flat screen tellies.

Yep.

That was the first thing you wrote. Then you wrote it first again in your next post.

yeah you kinda said that. twice. in separate posts.

Nah.

The fairest tax is 100% inheritance tax.

Why should you get a headstart just cos your mum was rich?

As long as I can keep her ears I'm happy.

I'd not go that far but there seem some gapping hole in "how fair our tax structure is"

Fucking Stockholm syndrome, you can't reason with a Tory/neolib, I tellz ya!

I thought it was new labour
Is keanu running now?
Id vote for him

an educated society is a productive society.

But perhaps less economically so from a traditional 'common-wealth' perspective (as tax contributions would accrue to in my world, and I'm very happy to pay my share), as with education comes the recognition of powerlessness / disenfranchisement that many face, with the result being a choice to reject the societal 'game' (of mortgage / savings / retail-therapy / support of the service sector.) The danger then is falling government revenue and so an even worse erosion of services. Not shopping with the tax-avoiders also wouldn't then help, so is it a double bind?
I'm not in this group so much, but all my children are (better educated than me) and I don't hear much other than frustration, anger, rejection and a determination to pursue alternative, less selfish, agendas. And on reflection, for me, that's actually a good thing because no-one in 'power' seems to give a shit about them.

Labour has always been cool.
"Ye were poor too"
Bit more to it than that....

^^ i'm sorry but i didn't understand very much of your post, then again i haven't spent a day in tertiary education. it shows.

Was very much in support of what you said and it's my bad for becoming incoherent. Got an angry bee in my bonnet and went off on a tangent about some shit that makes me angry because my (very tertiary educated) kids are so frustrated about politics / political establishment that appears so dysfunctional and so they're likely to reject the 'you'll be more productive - because 'we' need you to be / you bloody well better be - as we're relying on you' line :-(

War On Drugs. And, by extension, 6 Music. I grew up with Parents who were big Bruce Springsteen / dire straights fans. I don’t need this shit plaguing my adult life too.

Hah I saw war on drugs a few years back and said “sounds like Bruce Springsteen” I got blank stares.
Thanks for confirming my fear.
On top of the Dave Cameron likes them/him

Youtube algorithm changing into a self referential video circle jerk

People who keep piling dirty half-full cups and plates into an already full sink in the belief they're being seen to be 'tidy'.

It fucking infuriates me.

Urgh, I was so glad to see the back of my shared house days. I had a housemate who literally did no cleaning or tidying whatsoever in the 2 years i lived with him. Although my wife just leaves stuff out of the fridge all the time. Uses the milk. Stays on the side. Has some juice. Stays on the side. Infuriating.

A mate who likes them once berated me for likening them to Springsteen. He went on at length about them but in the end all I really took from what he said was that I should be saying they sound like Dylan produced by Springsteen.

For sale threads where the sold items get deleted or have the price removed

"Advert" style posts of nothing and continuous product placement on instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcBwuPzAS0Y/

That's against the rules too, for good reasons.

After an item the original advertiser must not remove the historical record by editing the advert in any way (no deleting), nor prevented the buyer from leaving comments in the future (no locking a conversation).

Oops...I had only been doing that to de-clutter my sales thread.

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Guys who drop chewing gum in urinals...see it regularly at my work and there's a bin in the toilet so act makes me think someone didn't get enough hugs as a kid