CP: Stayer X Hulsroy SSCX (framebuilding)

Only way to go. Also easy to become best UK single speed cyclocrosser now @Jon. has sold out... :-(

Are these built in the shop? I'd buy one almost purely because i grew up in leytonstone. They fact they also look great is just a bonus

Yes they are , they have the workshop at the back and upstairs. I will most likely have to get involved too once the geared batch is officially opened, only because I very much like Sam and been using them for various thing since day one as I used to live a coupke of hundred meters away...oh yeah I need a proper cyclocross bike to get muddy!

Also easy to become best UK single speed cyclocrosser

Want a bet?

No. I just saw a photo from this weekend of him using gavelle or whatever they are called.

Yay! <3

I rarely back anything commercial, but Sam is just amazing at making frames. Super thorough and skilled.
And yeah, him and Judith are both great humans as well.

I'll be posting some prices very soon. But if you can't wait just go out there and mention lfgss and this thread. He will talk you through it, let you try one and give a discounted price.

go out there and mention lfgss

I ride past twice a day at various times but it always seems to be closed :(

They closed the bike shop earlier this year to focus on frame building and wheel building.
If you go this the backside and there is light in the workshop you can go in.

Bike shop is closed? That is a shame.

Will still get wheels for my Isen from Judith.

Nah, there is plenty bike shop around. Much better for them to concentrate on making. Also, they will still get parts for you and build up custom bikes on demand I believe

Ah ok. Will give them a ring.

Nah, there is plenty bike shop around. Much better for them to concentrate on making. Also, they will still get parts for you and build up custom bikes on demand I believe

Agreed, I completely understand where they are coming from....Hard to make money spending hours and resources fixing old and unmaintained random haldford bikes which I bet they got a lot in there. Much better for them to focus on frame and wheel building, it is a lot more interesting and has the potential to bring more income.

Last time I spoke to Sam, if you have an 'interesting' project ie. building custom bike etc. they would still consider helping out. They are very helpful so I am sure they will help if they have the time for it.

gavelle or whatever they are called.

a mere dalliance.

Now that mud has finally arrived the singlespeed will be back in action this weekend, and I'll probably be defending my European title in Koksijde next March. You off to the Worlds?

Are Stayer sticking with track dropouts for the disc equipped single speeds? I've been trying to work out how to mix horizontal dropouts, through axles and flat mount disc brakes: the Trek Crocket looks to do all that pretty well but I'm not sure whether it'll be possible to replicate something similar in steel.

Sam has some rocker dropouts he wants to try out at some point. Nice stuff...

Seven's dropouts don't look too far off, so it could possibly work

I've been trying to work out how to mix horizontal dropouts, through axles and flat mount disc brakes

PMW rocker dropouts or sliding dropouts will work with PM brakes but I don't think they do a FM one. They're vertical rather than horizontal dropouts, but adjustable so they'll still work with SS without a tensioner.

The Seven dropouts don't have any fore-aft adjustability - they're fixed into place, so wouldn't give the adjustment necessary for SS without a chain tensioner.

the ones on Crockett are great! I have made mine #tukt

Great. I am not going to the worlds, but I'll be in Koksijde.
Re the disc versions, we are still trying out different solutions. That's way non has been posted yet.
I like the Cococino Cocomoto

I know, it would take some proper designing, what I meant was that there is a basis for someone to design it.
Like a more slender version of the regular sliding dropout.

Re the disc versions, we are still trying out different solutions

I find most sliding dropouts tend to slip without loads of torque through the bolts, and that torque results in them being a bit of a pain to swap out cogs if you're not a proper singlespeeder like me and like to change gears regularly. Those Coconino dropouts looks like one of the best options: nice and simple. Paired with a tensioner they could be the ticket (though obviously wouldn't work with flat mount brakes).

That is true, but is there any cable or hydro SS flatmount systems out there? And Would you not want cables running on the top tube for cyclocross?
I could try and design something like the Trek ss dropout for steel

Paint tests. A bit lighter than I expected.

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