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I have yup, and sell them too. I like them a lot. Good vfm too. Prestige tubing is also good stuff.
My point in my overly long slightly pissed ramble was that I can't work out how Genesis manage to make such lumpen frames out of what is supposed to be a reasonable tube set like 520.
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Apologies. It was a grant rant 10/10. You realise Reynolds 520 is just bog standard DB 4130 Chromoly with a sticker, right? Smoke and mirrors, Columbus Cromor, Tange Champion, etc, etc...
As for when steel frame got heavy and dead riding, well, you can thank the emergence EN/ISO standards and testing for that - compliant frames are massively overbuilt.
Alb
Have you ever ridden a Surly? Because your description of the ride of a Genesis applies equally to Surly frames, in my experience at least.
Maybe it’s a factor common to all mass produced, cheaper frames?