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  • And SRAM; I had to go at an Apex shifter with needle nose pliers over the weekend to extract a spectacularly frayed shift cable

  • Both SRAM and Shimano can be exceedingly diffcuilt to removed the cables, I'm still debating on which is worse.

    The older Shimano 5700/6700 etc. were a bit notorious, but got the hang of it (happen once a week or so).

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