The Klein CAAD12

Hahaha not these ones

Damn those pesky elbows of yours
(Definitely go with the Reds)

hydro would be even quicker

Don't you talk to me about building quicker

Hollowgrams and DA 9170 hydro

Dunno what the other debates are about

Never mind cable gods, the spacer gods might not be happy, you'll need about 3mm spacers to fit the red cranks if BB30.

He’s planning on using electrical tape. Only downside is he only has the yellow and green striped tape.

Yeah I'm not looking forward to trying to fit the cranks. They're bb30, frame is bb30a. I've never had to use any spacers down there, let alone wavey washers

How long does it take to fit a fork crown?

It's pretty simple, remove preload adjuster then add spacers and wave washer on NDS, if wave washer is flat you've got too many spacers

How long does it take to fit a crown race?

Fork crown is part of the fork, should be done at point of manufacture.

Not even sure Plato could answer that question..

I meant crown race. #fail

Nothing on DS? Sounds easy enough

You might want to if chainline is out, or crank too close to chainstay. Just experiment a bit

No. No spacers on DS for SRAM cranksets due to machined stop design.
Spacing out DS will hinder bearing from fully seating on the collar. Depending on model RED, if there's no preload adjuster on the NDS, spacers are more functional there. Also you space out the DS, bolt won't catch full thread.

BB30/SRAM RED PDF

Okie doke, it does have the preload. But for BB30a I read I will have to remove this entirely to gain enough length on the axle. Such confuse

I don't know what era RED you have so this is from some experience, but not exact.

Essentially a DIY method (same as using BBright BB's on BB30A for Shimano stuff) which will work, it's just not the cleanest method.
The BB is asymmetric towards the NDS, so that's where you'll make your adjustment, as doing it DS will just fuck shit up.
Un-thread preload adjuster. Install bearing cap, washers then a wavy washer. How many depends really. Till there's no play, but it's not too stiff.

Sounds reasonable enough. I'll give it a bash once they turn up. I suspect I'll go with the Reds over the SI even if its more of a hassle. Some CAAD models came with hollowgrams so I think the full SRAM just makes it a bit different. Not that being bright orange doesn't already do that

You're not working in a workshop any more I take it?

Quit last week unfortunately!!

It'll be a doddle mate, people just get overly loud when BB30/A gets mentioned and there's no reason for it. It's a good system, albeit made by a company that likes to fuck around. hence the SISL stuff, which I dig. Most of the creaking is down to assembly and not design.
Saying that though, they're everywhere now and it'd be nice to see this as an all road whip in matching gear.

I spent ages trying to work out best chainline based on the Sram docs and BB30 A, IIRC it worked out to be 1mm DS & 2-3mm NDS.

But you change gear all the time, chainline surely isn’t important enough to warrant a 1mm spacer

@PhilDAS <<< what he said. Especially considering the amount of lateral movement a chain has to do across a a 10/11 speed hub. Not as much of a problem till you start getting into fat rubber business.