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  • I don't see any wins in anyone's future here. Neither side is willing to negotiate, and Spain has already made it clear that they're ready to roll in the big guns and shut down the Catalan government by force. It's beyond me how people can be celebrating in the street when the near future holds bloodshed and even less autonomy than before. Puigdemont is a lunatic and in way over his head. I'm Catalan, grew up in bcn and support independence but not like this.

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