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• #19727
+1 rep
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• #19728
The new one is so easy.
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• #19729
Still, clues.
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• #19730
Pertinent to the Roman road conversation, I just stumbled across this display.
It shows a Roman road going to Great Dunmow.
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• #19731
Top effort.
Would've been quicker just to sweep up all the gravel from around the mirrors at Chiswick.
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• #19732
Old: Michael Tippet school in Loughborough junction.
I have no idea why this is tag worthy, other than it is close to Bruce's home.
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• #19733
New:
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• #19735
Pfft. We've had park gates. It's a decent building.
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• #19736
Ha!
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• #19737
How about an interesting work?
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• #19738
BTW, Happy Birthday Bruce!
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• #19739
Might go get this after work (if still there).
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• #19740
Is it any good off-road?
It might be but I'm not.
Can you convert to fixed gear
Building alternative wheels for it is going to be a project.
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• #19741
Off Topic Question:
You lot are knowledgeable about London, so can you help me with something I have always wondered about.
Why is the West End so named?
I wonder if it is from when London and Westminster were distinct, which would make it the west end of London. But if so, how did it survive to mean theatre land? Or is it more recent?
Anyone?
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• #19742
I think it's just because when​ it was built it was mostly fields and villages beyond it, so it was the westernmost bit of town; the name stuck even as the city expanded outwards.
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• #19743
London grew out of the City in the 16th and 17th century onto the flat lands towards the west. Before it connected fully with Westminster, Soho et al was the Western end of the city.
Look at what counts as a WC post code: Kings Cross and Bloomsbury, it's hard to place Kings Cross in the 'West' but it is west of the city and hence WC.
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• #19744
I get all that, but as a term for theatre land it can only really have begin in the late 19th century. Was it a current phrase for the previous quarter of a millennium? Or was it reappropriated a la "midtown"?
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• #19745
I seem to remember reading that it was always a term for the Mayfair end of Westminster rather than the west of the City of London.
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• #19746
Intriguing
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• #19747
According to Wikipedia (I know, but the source given is the Oxford dictionary of London place names...) the use of the term is early 19th-c., so it seems to have stuck from then. A lot of the theatres are more recent than that, so the West End as a synonym for Theatreland is just because most of them were built there.
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• #19748
But in early 19thC it wasn't the west end of London. It was in the middle like it is now.
Colour me confused.
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• #19749
Well from a quick Google for historical maps it looks like Hyde Park was more or less the western boundary in 1800 so idk - compared to the City of London I guess it was?
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• #19750
Suppose so yeah. As opposed to the east end, for sure!
If I was to only visit one mirror labyrinth today, which would you recommend?