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@PhilDAS, @jontea
Rear light, although pointing into the air and not totally pointless, (and front light, but nearer vertical) is bright enough as part of my effort to be visible to moronic car drivers.
Includes seatpac light, and 7 x Cree XM-L2 LED front light.Can't have enough lights on the bike on unlit country lanes.
Is that a light on the seatstay pointing pointlessly up in the air?