Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

I didn't realise that was a trailer for an actual film until the end. Jesus wept.

Wait wut? I didn't make it that far. I imagine the film is a tough watch.

I think it's time for a gilet replacement/upgrade...
Too many options...
What gilet do I need to buy? Helps

That depends on how old you are.

Fatboys is an Adelaide club. The bit where he talks about not having planned to be around for the whole year is filmed close to the crit track in Victoria Park, here.

Re: the movie

I don't know. Why so snooty about it? Do you feel superior to those guys, just because they're in their mid 40s and wearing a silly outfit that's not storm trooper-esque like Rapha stuff?

I don't group ride, but I gather that some of the group rides here are very fast and most of them go up in the hills. That overtaking scene looks like it was shot in the Adelaide hills, so all of these guys have done 600m+ climbing just to get there, and in my ergo session there's a 60 year old lady that weighs a lot less than me but pushes 450 watt intervals for 5x5 mins ... She wears silly looking kit, too. If anything, looking at these folks I feel like I should HTFU and ride more.

Why so snooty about it?

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2008, so I guess, yeah

It's been a common enough format for documentaries recently to take a widely ridiculed subculture and actually interview the people involved in it, to see what makes them tick.

Whether this can be stretched out to feature length is another matter. It would probably make a good BBC4 one hour job.

ha, well funnily enough mumsy aka the skipper turned 70 last week. And has now got a bike.

But she wouldn't be seen dead in Bicester Village. Or Rapha for that matter.

I don't doubt that some of these riders are super quick - they dedicate a lot of time to riding. The rub for me is it's generally wealthy middle age white dudes (not all, but generally) talking about 'suffering' and how 'it's hard' with no sense of irony. They have an expensive hobby which they enjoy, great. But stop trying to imply you're some how going through some turmoil to achieve your goals. /endrant

Also Rapha's brand plays into all of this so they could at least stop wearing shite kit.

I get what you're saying.

But at the same time I am coming up to 40 soon, and anecdotally there is something happening to people around me right now, in my age group, and it's all men. Lots of anxiety disorders, depression cases, hospitalisations to the mental health unit, two suicides in my social circle recently and I myself had to stop working because of burnout.

Just because they're white and reasonably well off doesn't mean they're not going through some shit. At least they're riding rather than blasting through the hills on expensive sports cars.

And I guess that's "we" soon, rather than "they", if I keep up my current trajectory.

Totally agree with you. Some of the opinions being expressed in reaction to that video in this thread are everything I hate about people who wear Rapha - exactly what you said, a feeling of superiority because they've coughed up the cash for some more expensive, slightly better kit (which won't actually make them better cyclists, or any faster).

The reality is that most of the people being pissy on here ride less than the people in that video and probably spend as much time buying as riding. Not a good place to be casting aspersions from.

(Disclaimer: I am a Rapha wearer who doesn't ride enough too, I'm just not disparaging about other people).

I like to combine a rapha item with something garish and cheap. Because I practically live in the Touring shorts.

Infamously @fussballclub like

Germans!

Based on the handful of interviews shown, isn't the documentary trying to explode this largely media-driven stereotype about recreational road cyclists anyway? In reality people get something out of it for a whole range of reasons - to overcome physical or mental illness, for the social aspects, for the personal challenge.

If it was presented as a documentary about, say, a traditional road club or the TT scene rather than taking a tongue in cheek stereotype as the starting point, would people feel differently?

Giro Active shell

Assuming it is for winter riding, i'm a big fan of the insulated gilet.

I do run pretty warm generally but I have been looking at the insulated gilet. Are they much bulkier than a non insulated version?

My mum has a rapha scarf and loves it. Doesn't / can't ride a bicycle. I love her.

yes, and not waterproof

A little, yes, but you can still fit one in a jersey pocket. I think they're brilliant.

definitely bulkier but still packable.

Very good for early morning rides where there's a good change in temperature over the duration.

@MicroDosed™ tbh it works fine in the wet too.