Custom Paint - Workshop specials.

Repost, but my second attempt at making a bike frame (for adults, anyway) and my first attempt at using flip/chameleon paint:

In bright sunlight the colour flips all the way from a limey sort of gold:

to a dark purple colour.

In Mallorca the flip paint was the first thing that people tended to notice. Then they noticed it was singlespeed.

Nice work, Which paint did you use ?

It's Specialist Paints Chromaflair Red over a black base.

Thanks

That's really great!

Good work.

That looks ruddy great; I do like a nice barber's pole (hur hur hur...)

You went to Sa Calobra on that? Awesome!

Her's a tinted carbon fork for an OPEN U.P. frameset we've got in at the minute.
It's a mad one to take a picture of... in real life, it just looks black until light strikes it.

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it looks like a rip in the space time continuum.

Hot!

Yep. Set a new PB on Sa Calobra, Col de Batella and the climb up to Puig Major from Soller on it too. #boastpost

Planning to take it out there again at the end of the month.

Nice. Is that a candy over the raw carbon?

Kinda but not strictly speaking.
The clear coat is tinted rather than a candy and then a clear over it.

So having emailed @hoops and colecoatings, professional custom paint on my old 725 genesis equilibrium is outside of the price range the framset deserves. However it does deserve a fresh lick of paint so it isn't too jealous of the upcoming Isen.

Based on @MechaMorgan's success with the spray.bike stuff, I've decided to give it a bash.

Currently I'm drawing design inspiration from the pink on @Velocio's seven and some of the paint designs by Lester Cycles, which are themselves inspired by cargo ship hull paint patterns. i.e. a horizontal dividing line along the whole frameset.

Logos
For me, I'd like the bottom half to be a medium grey and the top half the pink. In terms of stenciling / masking a Genesis Logo (in the same grey) for the downtube, what would be recommended? I guess the pro painters use laser cut vinyl? Any sources for this?

Technique
The spray.bike site and @MechaMorgan's experience says the paint can be applied pretty much straight to a clean frame. Currently the chainstays and seatstays have quite a few paint chips and rust. To ensure good smooth paint job, is it best to wet and dry sand these down?

Finish
Am I over the top or is putting the keirin flake sparkle a good idea?

You'll want to get rid of any rust completely down to clean metal, otherwise it wll just continue to spread under any new paint you put on.

I can sort you out with some low tack vinyl masks/stencils for the Genesis DT logo if needed.

You'll want to get rid of any rust completely down to clean metal

Is there a way to do this inside the tubes? Acid dipping or something?

Thanks for the advice on removing the rust. Some wet and dry or acid bath to remove all the paint to see what I am dealing with perhaps?

Will be in touch about Genesis logo stencils.

If I were you, I'd just get the frame media blasted. It will only be around £30-40, and will save you an awful lot of hassle, and give a much better key for the paint to stick to.

@MechaMorgan said he just put the spray.bike stuff over the existing paint job. What's the long term drawbacks of that?

Media blasting it is then. Is there a particular media which you recommend? Soda / Bead / sand?

For the carbon fork is it recommended to hand sand this?

Yeah.

You can have it chemically stripped.

Seconded.

any chance you've got some specialized stencils?

how do the stencils work?

A lot of the framebuilders we work with use this stuff to prevent rust...

Yeah I've seen this. I was just wondering since I'm doing some work on a frame soon but I'm aware things are looking a little orange on the inside already so I need to sort it out before preventing more.
Is acid stripping likely to actually remove any rust?