• @hoops Echoing some of the above sentiments, the missus and I went in search of cars and the ones she liked before we sat in/drove all of them were the yeti and the Juke.

    We tried loads, including the lexus as well and she eventually settled on a golf which wasn't even on her shortlist.

    The yeti just didn't feel a pleasant place to be. It felt agricultural without the agricultural bonuses. Took us about 15 mins to work out how to fold the seats and nearly took my fingers off. Which is the last thing you want when you wake up cold/camping etc.

    She sat in the Kia, and promptly got out. Just didn't like it.

    The lexus felt well cheap for what was essentially meant to be a semi lux car. She told the dealer this he was not amused.

    Both the Nissan Juke and qashqai were the two that I hated from the outset but actually surprised me and I ended up quite liking the juke.

    Sat in a golf on the way out begrudgingly and liked it. boot although less high was more usable. Much more comfortable and she felt she could see more out the back when parking which she couldn't in the yeti (and that was with parking sensors in the yeti, go figure). She also said the main reason she liked the golf was that it didn't feel like a huge car to drive even though length difference etc didn't have a lot in it.

    tl;dr buy a golf.

  • Logical, sensible, well articulated. You change meng, you change...

  • tl;dr buy a golf.

    So very often the answer. Or a Seat Leon if you don't want to pay the VW tax. I drove a Leon recently from Germany to Switzerland via Austria. The boot was big enough for two bikes and three large bags, with room to spare, and it was surprisingly good to drive. And unbelievably economical, with its 2 cylinder mode. I was impressed. By contrast, the Vauxhall Astra Turbo I drove two weeks later was an utter piece of miserable shit.

    I still can't see the point of an SUV unless you're really desperate to sign up to the Yummy Mummy/Chelsea Tractor lifestyle and image. The interior space is nothing to write home about, they have the aerodynamics of bricks, they're heavy and the roll centre's too high so they either roll around like a ship in a storm or they've got unpleasantly firm jiggly suspension. If you really feel the need to sit a foot higher than the person in the car next to you, buy a car with a sunroof, a booster cushion and a pair of sunglasses.

    Although I do like the Yeti, which in the special world which exists in my head isn't an SUV. I have very fond memories of hustling a 4x4 Yeti over the Nufnenpass to get to Geneva in time for a flight.

  • Reminds me of when I was looking at cars. You just can't argue with a vw. I bet they invest heavily in user testing and design out every little potential niggle.

    The result is bland though. I couldn't imagine having a Passat after a w124 so ended up in a saab 9-5 but tbh I doubt it's any better. Value for money is good on saabs though, it was almost half price compared to a same year, same milage, same spec A4.

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