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  • A relevant question that I've been struggling with.

    My girlfriend isn't keen on milk production, in particular the aspect of the calves being taken away from the mothers straightaway. Are there any "ethical" milk producers, free-range, calves remaining with the mother, etc (and the same question for cheese). Searching found a few in the US and one over here that seems to have a giant waiting list.

    She's moved onto alternatives to dairy for cereal, etc but still wants real milk to go in tea.

  • Try explaining that they have been selectively bred over millennia to be docile and cool with it. Importantly they wouldn't be alive if they didn't produce milk.

    We buy organic milk (and not too much) as it seems to offer a marginally better quality of life for them. But then still consume a lot of cheese and butter as my other half is a veggie and the reality is having a balanced diet with no meat or dairy is hard.

    If it's just tea milk then she's just got to take a view. Or if she has sugar in her tea (shudders) then try cashew.

  • and the reality is having a balanced diet with no meat or dairy is hard.

    Not sure I agree with that, unless you’re allergic to nuts/legumes of course.

    I think the only meat eating I could get on board with nowadays would be roadkill or possibly raising an animal and consuming nose to tail, only if you have the huevos to bump it off yourself of course. I couldn’t do it but if you can then fair enough.

    Not sure there’s any responsible way to consume dairy. As soon as I really thought about how it was produced it took less than a second to know I’d never touch it again.

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