The Vegan Thread

Indeed:

https://thenudge.com/london-news/broadway-vegan-market/

That's four vegan markets in fairly close proximity to me now. I wonder if they'll all survive (one has so far been a one-off), but it's clearly a rather winning concept.

Amazing.

Oh just to add, its about £15 a head so not super cheap.

I was also amazed to find the other week while back home in the midlands that toby carvery offered a few veggie and vegan options!

Worth checking out Holland and Barrett now and again..

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That's ok by me. We never go out any more, or buy new bikes, so it's a justifiable treat.

Jesus, there's some immense stupid going on in the 'Responsible Meat Eating' (yes, I know) thread. How @Oliver Schick can keep being so polite and helpful is way beyond me.

I agree :/

Well, I took four years to go vegan from being vegetarian, so I'm hardly going to pressurise anyone into changing everything tomorrow. Whatever ethical inconsistencies may be stated in that thread, I still prefer those to the conspicuous ravenousness for meat that you often see in the 'Food' thread. People want to reduce their meat consumption/think about factory farming etc., which is plainly a good thing even if at the same time they still seek to justify eating meat. Who knows what will happen as a result? People all have their own paths towards reducing meat-eating/becoming vegetarian or vegan/fruitarian or whatever. Sure, it could/should all happen more quickly, but the most important thing is that it's sustainable and on a sound basis that the person in question is really convinced by and able to keep to, instead of perhaps making themselves unhappy with a code they've had imposed on them or that they've imposed on themselves.

Suppose this is good news, though I've never been keen on the orange tyranny in the freezer section.

https://www.plantbasednews.org/post/veggie-brand-quorn-released-exciting-new-vegan-products

Anyone else going to Walthamstow vegan market today?

I didn't know that was on. There's bloody vegan markets everywhere. :) Hm, they're probably not too bloody. I thought I'd drop into the little one on Shacklewell Lane, but may re-route to WF instead. Perhaps bump into you there!

We're heading over now for breakfast and mooching. Hopefully see thee there!

Ha, that's very out of the way. No doubt it'll be properly overrun. :)

I'd better get out of the house soon, then.

Where in Walthamstow is it, I might pop up.

There was like 3 stalls when we got there. No coffee of pastries to be seen. Didn't feel like spending £8 on curry at 11am or £3 on a tiny cupcake ever. Bit disappoint. Went to ikea instead.

Was in the industrial estate just off Blackhorse lane.

Anyone got a good sausage recipe?

Ah, shame I missed you. Tika was there, though, so we had a good chat. You've got that IKEA thing the wrong way round--you use it as an excuse when you don't want to go to an event, not use the event as an excuse not to go to IKEA first.

I waited for a while with ordering food and when I thought you were unlikely to turn up any more, I did have a curry, which was excellent--way better than 'street food' most of the time. It went very quickly.

The event was lovely, lots of people turned up from about 12 or so and had lunch. Really good atmosphere and music.

It's in Lockwood Road in Higham Park. Still going on now, might still be worth going (if you hadn't already).

Interesting news from the Vegan Society:

Animal sentience has been omitted from Withdrawal bill

Tom Kuehnel discusses what this will mean for animals, and what you can do to help.

Following the UK’s decision to withdraw from the European Union in last year’s referendum, it has been decided that all European legislation will be reinstated as UK law. The process through which this will happen is dictated by the European (Withdrawal) bill, although you might know it by the grandiose sounding moniker: ‘Great Repeal Bill’.

The EU has provided us with 80% of our animal welfare legislation, but not everything will automatically be enshrined into domestic law. Arguably the most troubling omission, certainly from the animals’ point of view, is the exclusion of article 13 of the Lisbon Treaty, an article which recognises animal sentience. This essentially means that government doesn’t have to pay any regard to an animal’s welfare, or grant them any rights.

Of course this legislation is often used to improve the conditions of farmed animals, and does little to liberate these animals from farms and their inevitable fate at the slaughterhouse, but at least it gives animal advocates something to work on. Who knows what this law will give way to in the future, but at the very least we should recognise animal sentience, something so fundamental which we can use to build rights and other recognitions on top of in the future.

You can see how this ridiculous Bill is probably quite heavily shaped by lobbying by animal exploitation organisations.

Sorry we missed you Oliver, we obviously got there a bit too early to see it in full flow and must've arrived before Tika as didn't spot her. Looks like we were disappoint, not the market!

Well that market was a total waste of time, everywhere apart from the overpriced cupcakes had run out of food and was packing away.

So a success then? You just got there too late and I got there too early!

Giving this sausage recipe a try
https://www.yumsome.com/the-worlds-best-vegan-sausages/

Giving a friend of a friends great grandmas lentil daal recipe a try tomorrow. Infuriatingly it doesn't have any measurements for the spices so will use another recipe to give an indication.
If it's tasty and we work out measurements will put the recipe up.

Ate lentils yesterday. They were delicious but did not agree with me at all... is it normal to spend the following 24 hours constantly sharting?

She wasn't very visible, I didn't see her at first, either. Her stall was opposite the Hornbeam stall and relatively few people walked past it/up to it. She was late, though, as she had first gone to another Wild Card Brewery; apparently, there are two. She carried everything up by bike.

I think we might have spotted her pulling up on other side of road just as we left then- black omnium cargo bike? Feel bad for not sticking around now as was a bit uninspired when we arrived.

Currently massively unappealing looking sausages in their cling film skins. Need to chill in the fridge to firm up then can be treated like their porky equivalent.. they smell amazing tho.

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I think we might have spotted her pulling up on other side of road just as we left then- black omnium cargo bike?

Yes, that's her.