• I had a Croix de Fer before this, it was 12kg, which for me is too fucking heavy. I don't really agree with the 'you'll stop noticing the weight' thing. You won't up hills or in the nimbleness (for want of a better word) of the bike. But I don't like heavy bikes.

    I did 40 miles on the Orro on Sunday that was nearly all off road but had a stretch of Essex B roads about half way to join up two off road parts. Despite having knobbly tyres on the Orro still felt fast, I literally looked down and realised I was easily doing 25+ mph. CdF was not like that and that's what I wanted, something that would be good off road but also fast on it.

  • I have the Croix de Fer at the moment as well, and agree, the weight is always something that bothered me when the road went up, which is why I was looking at something lighter.

    Where did you get the Orro from? Direct or from LBS? Would like to try one for size but don't think there are any shops that stock the Terra C.

  • My LBS - Hub Velo in Clapton. They definitely have the standard Terra in, I test rode that before putting the order in for the C. They are quite similar but they did tweak the geometry for the C.

    There's been a lot of interest in mine so they might be up for getting another carbon frame in to demo. What size do you think you'd be? I'm 5ft 9" and ride the medium (effective TT is 55.3).

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