• Look forward to hearing more about how this rides? Was all set on getting a Spesh Diverge, but just saw this on the Orro website, with the newer Ultegra £100 less that the 105 specced Spesh and comes colour correct for me.

    Will let you know when I've ridden it more. Right now I am wondering why Orro used a 150mm rear axle, which means I need to get the rear on my second set of wheels rebuilt with a new hub because you can't convert a narrower Hope Pro 4 to 150mm, you have to buy a new hub. Bit annoying.

    Fortunately LBS might be able to sort me out with a cheaper than normal hub through a trade contact. Don't get why they didn't use 142mm though as that's the emerging standard.

  • That's interesting.

    Took the Sequoia out for a test ride today courtesy of Sigma, and although it was pretty dull and lifeless on the road, once I took it along the muddy path along the river, it was a lot of fun. This has blurred my options somewhat. I was convinced I wasn't going to find the Sequoia much fun as it's quite a heavy bike, but I was smiling like an idiot as I tried not to ride into the river. I do think something like the Orro or Diverge might be more nimble off road and a little more fun on road. But who knows. So far, I've just ridden the Sequoia so it's the leader so far.

  • Ive had my sequoia for a year now, and it's exactly as you say.....I'll add though, that the longer you ride it for, the less the weight becomes an issue......it turns into momentum, as you adapt your riding style to suit. The wheels are shit though.

  • I had a Croix de Fer before this, it was 12kg, which for me is too fucking heavy. I don't really agree with the 'you'll stop noticing the weight' thing. You won't up hills or in the nimbleness (for want of a better word) of the bike. But I don't like heavy bikes.

    I did 40 miles on the Orro on Sunday that was nearly all off road but had a stretch of Essex B roads about half way to join up two off road parts. Despite having knobbly tyres on the Orro still felt fast, I literally looked down and realised I was easily doing 25+ mph. CdF was not like that and that's what I wanted, something that would be good off road but also fast on it.

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