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  • Jesus, there's some immense stupid going on in the 'Responsible Meat Eating' (yes, I know) thread. How @Oliver Schick can keep being so polite and helpful is way beyond me.

  • I agree :/

  • Well, I took four years to go vegan from being vegetarian, so I'm hardly going to pressurise anyone into changing everything tomorrow. Whatever ethical inconsistencies may be stated in that thread, I still prefer those to the conspicuous ravenousness for meat that you often see in the 'Food' thread. People want to reduce their meat consumption/think about factory farming etc., which is plainly a good thing even if at the same time they still seek to justify eating meat. Who knows what will happen as a result? People all have their own paths towards reducing meat-eating/becoming vegetarian or vegan/fruitarian or whatever. Sure, it could/should all happen more quickly, but the most important thing is that it's sustainable and on a sound basis that the person in question is really convinced by and able to keep to, instead of perhaps making themselves unhappy with a code they've had imposed on them or that they've imposed on themselves.

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