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  • What's people opinion on halal and kosher meats.
    My issue is two fold.
    Firstly the needless extra cruelty endured during death.
    Secondly the lie that is prayer during slaughter the animal is sacrificed to God and thanked when we have breed and raised and this has been it's destiny from birth for our eating pleasure and not nutrition or necessity. What ever your belief is I find I can't accept this.
    And the fact that someone eating halal/kosher wouldnt eat something that has been sacrificed to another/different God seem absurd.

  • There are halal slaughter houses that operate to higher standards of "welfare", than non-halal - particularly if they stun before slaughter - but I would argue that they are in a minority.

    There was a time when a lot of meat served in schools and elsewhere in the public sector was halal, just to "be on the safe side". There was little transparency or informed choice, yet Sikhism - as I understand it - prohibits the consumption of Kutha meat, meat from ritual slaughter.

  • Coming from said background, I've done some digging regarding the matter. It really depends entirely on the moral code of ethics by the individual in business/authority.
    What I'm sure of now is that it's really little understood by the majority of non halal eaters and the 'brutality' term gets thrown around.

    It's no more or less brutal than standard abattoir procedures, which as a general rule of thumb, all really fall under certain universal guidelines (stunning) set by regulators, with the caveat that certain religious procedures are followed.

    The exception being said 'moral religious standards'. Some would be surprised to find that certain halal eaters/suppliers really do care about where the livestock is sourced from and how it is killed. Just because the methodology is different, the end result is still the same.
    Depending where you're from, there remains a certain 'relationship' you have with the meat you consume, and again, that depends on individualistic thinking.

    Majority of halal meat eaters only buy from butchers, which isn't to say they're not crooked, but the incentive to find where the meat comes from is much more prevalent than picking up a sealed pack from Asda's halal section.
    There's a lot of misinformation regarding halal meat and it's consumption. This isn't to say the meat is always to a higher standard, it's just that religious beliefs force said consumer to find meat as close to source as possible.
    Whether minority or majority depends entirely on individual and how 'true' to their faith they are, but that's always flexible whatever your affiliation is.

    Now saying all this, I don't eat halal anymore, but it all falls under the same umbrella for me these days. We eat too much of everything without giving a toss about where it all comes from be it meat (halal or not) and veg.
    If I buy now, I try to make it as unpackaged as possible and as close as possible to where I'm standing.

    Tl;DR

  • I discussed this with a friend of mine.. meat is mostly to be avioded but the tradition maintained for difficult times... ie war draught ...ice age ..etc.
    The idea of sacrifice is fobidden but thanks must be made to animal and it must be slaughter in one clean blow.
    In an ideal situation hunting of wild animal is preferred to slaughtering of farm animals.
    This is available in UK.. but very rare now as even in largely sikh areas market forces have undercut them.

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