Is indicator use by cars rapidly declining?

Not sure if it's possibly just my corner of S. London - I don't ride in Central London - but I'm convinced indicator use has been falling rapidly over the last year or so.

Sure I have always been aware people don't always indicate e.g. when pulling out from parked the left. But now it feels like every ride I'm seeing cars fail to indicate where there is much more potential for confusion. For example when at a T junction, light controlled or not, meaning I have no idea whether they are turning left or right. Saw a bus do this the other day then turn right.

Thoughts - specifically on whether it's declining, or if it's a local phenomenon? Streatham/W Norwood/Tulse Hill/Herne Hill area. I don't seem to notice it as I go further South.

Ceased in 2015 in most of SE London.

My personal experience would suggest that indicators had been an ignored 'opt-in' on the upgrade menu of new high end German cars for most of the last decade.

Probably confirmation bias but I totally agree, and it's not limited to SE.

Everything I was taught to do on my driving test (indicating to pass an obstacle in your lane, indicating at roundabouts, indicating to change lanes) seems to be missed on any journey I take.

Even at a T-Junction I go through on my daily commute, people don't put their indicator on until they're at the junction, despite 5/6 cars regularly backed up. It's meant to be about 30 metres before the junction, not one car length. Makes it a right sod to filter safely.

Yes I've noticed a decline too. I think it must just be the sheer physical effort of operating the lever. That would explain why some drivers, especially those on mopeds with the especially big heavy indicator operating lever, manage to get the indicator to the On position but simply can't muster the strength to haul it back to Off. I feel for them to be honest. Personally I practice hand signalling in the gym with a 5kg dumbell and that seems to do the trick for me although when I get home after my commute my wife has to undo my jacket for me and slide it over my head. Then I carb up, sleep and I'm ready for the next days arduous arm-lifting action.

If I could afford an expensive Audi, I'd be indicating all the time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Fin7pyzDc

I had a car in front of me yesterday that may have been an Audi with one of those thin strips of LEDs as indicators.

Could barely fucking see them.

@Jezston I have also seen the scrolling Audi ones (and similar non scrolling ones, prob Audi too) and thought them very difficult to make out in daytime. Little contrast with running lights.

Also, getting rid of the separate little indicators on the wing/wing mirror/door (which I assume was due to a regulatory change) always seemed a retrograde step to me.

I thought you had to have at least one side repeater?

In Copenhagen declining as well (by much!)

We've still got a few indicator users in the south-west. Many of them leave them on for minutes at a time.

This forum. A thread on indicators. Jeez. Do some work. (mea culpa)

Drove a mate's couple of years old Jetta recently.
Indicated, natch, and was surprised by an orange switching light under the wing mirror.

Bikeradar covered this in 2011. I think we've done well to go this far

For some reason lots of motorcyclists struggle with this. I used to ride and would also cringe when someone flew past on a busy A road with their indicator still flashing.

Asked a cabbie on Waterloo Bridge (N-bound) this morning why he didn't indicate when he was moving from bus lane to right-hand lane and he just said "likewise, mate, likewise!"

I was already in the lane! I would have slowed down to let him out and not needed to take evasive action round his front right-wing (fnarr fnarr) if he had indicated.

Shook my head at his comment and rode on, no reasoning with some people.

I'd say it's on and off.

I think it might be because people increasingly drive with their phone in the hand that they'd normally indicate with. At least when I go past someone who has failed to indicate they often have their phone in their hand even if they're not actually using it.

Up until driverless cars, cars have never used indicators, drivers might chose to. I'd guess that driverless cars will be good at using indicators so cars use of indicators will increase.

I think the decline in use of indicators is proportionally matched by my increased awareness of whether or not people indicate.

I'd say it's on and off.

I'd say its virtual signalling.

That's just your blinkered opinion

Things have taken a turn for the worse.