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TBH I find the "might be used at track days" excuse pretty tenuous for fast cars. If every car capable of significantly exceeding the national speed limit was actually driven on the track we'd need a Nurbergring in every town in Britain to meet demand.

Post-Brexit we'll have £350M a week to build everyone their own Nurburgring.

In relation to the law under which he was convicted of causing bodily harm whilst driving wantonly and furiously.
Edit: One employed in conducting a coach, carriage, wagon, or other vehicle,with horses, mules, or other animals, or a bicycle, tricycle, or motor car, though not a street railroad car.

Cars can easily be made so they are limited, to at least not exceed national speed limit so why aren't they?
If we could easily make knives that performed their indented function (stabbing up carrots) but couldn't be used for stabbing up people, surely we'd choose to do that.

My Toyota verso can cane it up the motorway at over 100, but it's never going to see a track in its life - I can't see any other reason for it to be able to go that fast.

Limiters coming. See driverless car thread for details. Beware edwardz.

Not checked that thread for ages - will rectify. I've noticed black boxes becoming more commonplace ( or at least I see more and more of those 'soz im not speeding - got a black box' stickers)

Expanding on my post, I simply meant that driverless cars will not exceed agreed speed limits. One assumes, anyway.

Somebody just shoot this guy

https://gizmodo.com/juicero-founder-hops-on-silicon-valleys-hot-starvation-1818583147/

I assume that black boxes / limiters will start being necessary (as in, required by insurance companies) in non-autonomous cars once autonomous cars are commonplace on the roads.

Wasn't there something about autonomous car tests and having to make them drive slightly faster than the limit so they didn't keep getting rear ended by normal traffic? :-)

With GPS tech surely non-autopilot cars can be programmed to know the speed limit where they are & apply appropriate limiter overriding driver. Some folks would hack to overcome that but they'd be in the minority, and they'd all be sent to gaol obv.

https://www.freemovement.org.uk/explainer-can-home-secretary-really-guilty-contempt-court-breach-court-order/

Seems the HO was a tiny little bit too keen to deport somebody and breach a court order...twice.

Thought drive was only used for the operation of a motor vehicle?

It is. Weird BBC journalism. Just because the law calls it driving does not mean that they have to.

"raw water"

mwwwkay...

But those ejits have no power without followers.

Their secret is biohacking

The madness of new legislation is a knee jerk reaction which politicians will use for their own publicity.

How will any juvenile BMX riders avoid prosecution with their 'reckless' tricks etc.

The whole world is going mad ....

The whole world is going mad ....

Welcome to 2017. Here's to 2018!

How will any juvenile BMX riders avoid prosecution with their 'reckless' tricks etc.

Run from the cops.

Like we always did.

Just overheard in Evans one staff member telling another that if customers are buying a fixed gear, they have to sign a waiver to say that they agree that they intend only to use it on the track.
Fair enough that they're covering themselves really but the whole things gone mad.

That is true, we were also told about this today.

I thought it was illegal to sell a bike without brakes unless specifically for track so I suspect this has been in place for years in many shops. The staff member was informing the other chap as if it was a new thing, a change in policy so I suspect it is for other fixed bikes.

Bingo.

Pretty much all we have to do is ensure the bicycle meet the European Standards before selling them.

ffs, this stuff makes me really angry

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/irn-bru-launches-investigation-after-can-explodes-in-mans-fridge-leaving-pet-dog-in-shock1/?utm_source=twitter

The experience, said Mr Kane, left his two-year-old beagle Parker in shock and with “toilet problems”

Heroin.

I think that when it becomes clear how much safer driverless cars are, not only will black boxes be required, but it will illegal to drive a car unless you've got a special licence - which will only be given out to collectors, people with specific jobs, etc. Something like current UK gun laws.

Of course that won't happen for 20 years at least.

Can't wait. I'd much rather cycle around a bunch of robot cars than stupid humans driving using their distracted human brains and lethargic human limbs.

Cycling everywhere will be well cushty once we achieve FULL AUTOMATION

The thought that they'll allow cyclists on the road to slow the driverless cars is a bit optimistic.

I don't think they'd be able to enforce a ban on cycling (in the dystopian robocar future) if they tried. You could cause critical mass levels of disruption with half a dozen cyclists blocking robocars. Just the membership of this forum simultaneously taking primary position would be enough to bring the city to a standstill in protest. There certainly wouldn't be enough cops to arrest everyone, if there were any left at all by then.

There certainly wouldn't be enough cops to arrest everyone, if there were any left at all by then.

By the time cars are fully automated AI will have advanced sufficiently to rely purely on ED-209s for law enforcement.