Went with CN carbon in the end, way cheaper than other options and not quite sure its any worse. Seems like everyone have the same rims and mix and match the same hubs and spokes.
For the roadie, fits with the bargain basement race bike theme. I'm considering relacing the american classics on carbon at some point too, they're a bit banged... Well all my rims are banged :(
Went with CN carbon in the end, way cheaper than other options and not quite sure its any worse. Seems like everyone have the same rims and mix and match the same hubs and spokes.