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  • user81480 in reply to @MultiGrooves

    A pedestrian has right of way, should you run one over on the carriage way or worse still on the foot path the law in in there favour.

    Should you make no attempt to avoid the collision & shout out at the a pedestrian to get out of your way, you not doing yourself any favours

    Should your cycle or vehicle be found to be defective after being involved in collision it not going to turn out very well for you

    Should after being involved in collision which causes death or serious injury you decide to shoot you mouth off, your not going to make it any better for yourself....

    Charlie Alliston, was foolish enough to ensure he was getting a custodial sentence.

    I find the childish what about xyz laughable, however mobility scooter basic competence & some basic insurance should be required

    You're repeating yourself. We both know peds have the ultimate priority.
    I have no idea why you're bringing up the stuff you have. I mentioned nothing about not trying to avoid a collision, neither was that the case with Charlie. It appeared she stepped back into his path after he had avoided the victim. How is that relevant? I asked you about what you'd expect from a typical cyclist in very typical road situations with pedestrians crossing between high sided vehicles. Do I risk my life for some crossing where they do not look and where they cannot be seen?
    It looks as though you have no any idea of what it is like to cycle in a city like London. If you cannot be bothered to address any of the points I made then lets end this here and keep it civil.

    Why are you talking about defective bikes? That was nothing to do with what I asked and the overwhelming majority of bikes on London roads.

    "Shooting your mouth off"? What are you talking about? This has nothing to do with what I asked. If you bothered to read my post 2 pages back, you'd see that I don't back much of Charlie's position in this.

    So far you do not comprehend well. It is also clear that you do not ride in London. Ask anyone here or any cyclist that you may know and they will tell you the scenarios I asked you about are not just "childish" or laughing matters. They are very common situations that we go through several times sometimes in single journeys. I'd just like to know your stance. If they are too taxing for you lets just leave it here and leave it civil.

  • In a city you find pedestrians, they wander in-between & in front of traffic.

    In the UK they have right of way & are not required to cross at a specified point.

    If you travel at speed & you have to do so with the understanding that a pedestrian might just wander out in front of you.

    If you unable to stop you are travelling too fast.

    You may find this unfair, however are there members of the public with mental or physical disabilities, who may be unable to see, hear or comprehend the danger of wandering out into the road.

    A British City will have also drunks, junkies & mongs with head phones.

    If you are unable to cope with the extra responsibility of "wheeled transport" feel free to wander about on foot safe in the knowledge you have right of way.

  • Question - Do you ever drive a car or cycle in a city?

    If you do, the theoretical conclusion to your argument is that your vehicle would never move, for fear of having an accident. What if ... pops out from between a parked car, what if ... runs onto the road.

  • In the UK they have right of way

    Read Oliver's post.

  • mongs

    Really? Fuck off.

  • So the logical conclusion is that I could be at the edge of the road in this position:

    and head into the road. Not look. Possibly be on my phone and it is the sole fault of any vehicle that collides?

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