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Netakure

I see I'm not the only one running a Grade with a -17 stem... Damn thing is too tall!
I used to run SKS longboards in mine, much better feet coverage

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Flange in reply to @Netakure

Mental high isn't it. I actually bought another frame originally and moved the bits across to get a lower front end, but it was a Kinesis and like everything Kinesis it cracked. Probably an ideal time to list it for sale actually....

Cheers for the tip on the guards, I'll give them a try.

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