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  • I think we all cherry pick, otherwise life becomes unlivable.

    It's the "I'm religious* so my views are immune to human rights/evidence and should have a special place in government" that annoys me.

    *and if atheists go off on one on that, and want to ban religion I'm against it too. Funny enough though there's a stigma against being openly atheist in the UK in politics...and against being openly gay too.

  • It's the "I'm religious* so my views are immune to human rights/evidence and should have a special place in government" that annoys me.

    If you're interested in a well argued counter to your view* then give this a listen :

    A Point of View - The Religion of Rights - @bbcradio4 http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b092gkks

    Definitely not where I'd usually sit. But I'm trying harder to take on board differing views. The 100mph nutters that make up the right and inarticulate angry rants of *c*onservatives make it hard, so it's always good when you come across something more normal.

    *or at least what I assume your views are

  • Probably 10 minutes of puking for me based on the synopsis. Human rights is not a religion...but yep it's good to try other views. I'll try it.

    Though he's correct rights have to be claimed...I somehow don't think it'll include a strong view that therefore legal aid must be available to all :p

  • http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/countryside/9765963/Tally-ho-Let-the-hunt-remind-us-who-we-are.html

    Scruton is the kind of Torycunt who goes fox hunting.
    He deserves no consideration.

  • Scruton is peddling the widespread and completely bollocks idea that Western democracy and human rights ideals are a) unique and b) founded on Christianity. Bullshit. Western countries became more tolerant and democratic in direct proportion to the weakening influence of Christianity. The philosphical principles which pushed back religion and placed focus on individual rights and the power of a secular society came from many different sources around the world and across history. Most Christian churches have opposed social progress every single step of the way.

    When the UK was a genuinely Christian country, we were burning and torturing heretics. It's only very recently (in historical terms) that the Church of England retreated from demonising scientists and philosophers and retreated to become the shit social club it is now.

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