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• #5102
So based on all of your (very helpful and much appreciated) replies, it looks like this is indeed a v1.
Now I really wish I could afford it haha
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• #5103
V1: 29.8mm seattube v3: 27.2mm
V1: No bottle mounts
V1: First 20 had external headsets and non perforated dropouts
V1: built from gas pipe tubing. V3:True Temper
Geo of v1/3 differ slightly as in the TT of the V3 is slightly longer for each size.
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• #5104
That's some good intel - thanks!
So that seems to settle it: this is indeed a v1, but not one of the first 20
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• #5105
Got some spare time (read I'm bored) so here's a history lesson, ripped off SuperCo & mtbr.
Chris Boudreaux was a Grundig World Cup champion Trials rider. He got his nickname, "Doc" from formal training and experience as a medical doctor. He was a passionate fighter from BMX to downhill racing.
"I started my riding career in BMX racing in 1979, and bicycles have been my main passion ever since," says Boudreaux, who grew up outside of Baltimore, Maryland. "Over the years of riding and racing, I began to dream of product ideas of my own."
As Boudreaux matured, so did his interests in bicycle competition, moving from BMX to observed trials in the late 1980s. The precision that was demanded of him in trials riding was the perfect complement to the time Boudreaux spent attending Mt. Sinai Medical School in New York City. He earned his MD in 1993 as a specialist in infectious diseases and orthopedics then served as a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention liaison to the NYC Department of Health until 1996, when he reached the proverbial fork in the road - should the rest of his life follow career, or his passion?
"I had the kind of opportunity that doesn't happen very often," says Boudreaux, who spent what little free time he had riding and designing frames and components "The dreams that I had back then came together with the establishment of a new bicycle company where I would follow my vision from concept, to design and manufacture, to a finished product that not only I could ride, but others could enjoy as well." Boudreaux became co-owner of a bike company that went against most, if not all, trends. His imaginative designs and skilled manufacturing talents attracted a hard-core cadre of customers who appreciated the small company for its all-steel downhill and dirt jumping frames.
Boudreaux's first solo efforts on frame building - from conception to completion to testing - came in 1997 with a full suspension BMX bike
and a 70lbs behemoth downhill bike called the Supertrucker with a jackshaft drive and internal geared hub.
His second downhill frame, the TMX was originally created in 1999
Also in late 2000 Doc's preliminary suspension exploration was taken one-step beyond with the creation of The Master Plan.
It was a purely experimental bike designed to test suspension, braking and body positioning. The experience gained was quickly utilized in the 2001 Big Link, his first bike with a linkage driven shock configuration.
As Doc's fabricating and riding requirements continued to evolve so did the side projects he challenged himself with. He returned to NYC from a pivotal May 2001 trip to Utah with the goal of making the smallest lightest bike possible utilizing the same proven linkage and jack shaft design of the Big Link, which was a burley 65lbs. Several months later he emerged from the shop with a six-inch travel all-mountain bike capable of handling the terrain at his favorite Northeast resort while also serving exceptionally well on the September follow-up trip to Utah that same year. The 36lbs FQ Mini Link was another of his self-funded side projects forced into limited production at the company by popular demand.
In 2002 Doc had been working on a downhill frame design that would have been years away from going into production at the old company had it not been for the early support of Avalanche Downhill Racing who was looking for a new team bike at the time. Later that year, Avalanche team rider John McCann won the Semi Pro class at the Mount Snow National aboard one of these Race Links.
It wasn't long before Doc compiled a hearty list of changes required to make the Race Link truly race-worthy for all conditions but without a concerted effort under one roof these undertakings were insurmountable. The bike ended up being the last production frame Doc would design for his old company (BMW).
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• #5106
Exactly.
V2's top and down tubes are also from True Temper "Supertherm" butted tubes, like the V3, besides having a gusseted down-tube, a brake bridge & the cluster fork that makes them easily distinguishable.
The V1 and V3 fork legs are seamless, cold-drawn, 4130 "ProMoly Streamline Tubing" made in the USA by Plymouth Tube Co.
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• #5107
Thanks for the excellent read (I, too, am bored today haha)! I can't help but wonder how many v1's are out there - that is, what's the highest numbered frame out in the wild.
God, I want that raw frame on eBay now haha
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• #5108
My v2
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• #5109
Sick!
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• #5111
Thanks more snaps here
https://www.pedalroom.com/bike/brooklyn-machine-works-abstract-34516
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• #5112
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• #5113
Yeah that article has been around for a minute, it is a good read indeed. I think that I've read pretty much everything floating around the internet about BMW over the past years. Just felt like posting some of Doc's stuff, that's all (:
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• #5114
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• #5115
So true. The evolutionary stages he went through, from a mental process to actually fabricating his own parts and frames was ridiculous back then. Not easy at all and groundbreaking at the time and kind of comparable to your BRP gear in my mind (on some level & please don't take this the wrong way cause it's meant as a compliment). He should have designed a new DH rig, just for the fuck of it, but at the end of the day, the bacon wouldn't make it's own way home if he didn't step away from what he already tried, tested and knew and has been considered "outdated" for a while now. Keeping it simple and making jump frames must have been the easiest, most viable option. That's just how the cookie crumbles but god dammit I would love to have seen SuperCo pumping out something completely crazy!
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• #5116
My raw V1 is no 351
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• #5117
Probably a repost but I spotted this in 109 Mens clothes shop right on Shibuya crossing in Tokyo.
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• #5118
40cm toptube protector...
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• #5119
Old cruiser are so sick, I would kill for one of those
Retro logo design, shinburger pedals, brooklyn V-brake ?
Only missing the midget stem..
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• #5121
He was referring to the one diceface posted above
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• #5122
you're right!
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• #5124
I had hoped I would see some cool bikes in Tokyo but that one was a surprise. I could ask if it is for sale, I'm here 'til Sat
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• #5125
V2 raw small on US ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/brooklyn-machine-works-gangsta-track-frameset/152700839769
Yep. It's a cluster fork and drilled.