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^ninja edits ruining my reverie

Indeed.

There's a strong case to be made for having professional, full-time juries.

Or a test to root out the dregs.

Teaching logic, reasoning and critical thinking as life skills via our publicly funded education system should help. They don't make for a very happy populace however.

There's a strong case to be made for having professional, full-time juries.

If it's 10.30-4.00, sign me up.

Believe me, it's pretty shit. There's a reason you're forced to do it, rather than it being voluntary...

In certain circumstances yes I agree

I'm surprised there isn't some kind of 'you aren't bat shit crazy' test for jury members but I guess that's why N is a reasonably large number (12?)

guilty, cleared of manslaughter. probably the right outcome.

The Guardian say 'bodily harm'. Does that mean that recklessness was still a factor in the conviction?

There's a strong case to be made for having professional, full-time juries.

Not really. The court is chock full of professionals who are there to guide the process but also tainted by the institution (and have an institutionalised perception of the case). So many downsides to professional juries (opportunities for corruption, creates yet another class of people in the courts system who are distanced from normal life) while not at all removing the risk of there being morons and cunts in the jury.

I'm sure G4S would love to provide the service, though. Think about that.

I thought there were only 2 charges, wonton and furious and mansaluter ?

wonton and furious and mansaluter ?

not sure if typo or genius

I'm going with genius.

It's the wanton and furious he's been found guilty of. Full title is something about causing bodily harm by wanton and furious driving.

Gonna be a tidal wave of "Just the other day" stories in the press now.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causing_bodily_harm_by_wanton_or_furious_driving

"Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years ..."

^^Debate is heated in the office about this already "they should have gone full murder charge/hang him" etc. The current verdict seems about right I think. I'm waiting to use the 'Diana defense' when being held to account and made to explain all the office's complaints about cycling.

your workmates sound like cunts

Use "one of your lot" when telling anybody in the office about any motorist doing something stupid

One of your lot turned left without indicating and nearly killed me this morning. Cunts all of them

One of you lot mowed down a 6 yo drunk and fled the scene last night.

I can see how that would work

One of you lot mowed down a 6 yo drunk and fled the scene last night

bit young to be drinking

To be honest the hang him thing wasn't said but I put it in for effect! Ordinarily they are really nice, but when it comes to cycling some get very irrational no matter what I say.

That's a great one!

Most murderers start off as nice people as well.