Guitar Nerds Anonymous

Totally. For a band I hate, I really like their work.

I think only diehard beatles fans think george is a guitar legend but i'd bet he could of made any old argos guitar sound better than most people on here. I'm a big fan of matching headstocks but the last two on these pages have been awful. Ice Cream Strat and a Turd Tele. No need.

£860,000 for billy's strat. Not sure i could part with something like that myself but I guess it's a strat and that's a nice little earner in $.

I feel the same way about Bowie...

I hate Mick Jagger but love the Rolling Stones...

Really not a big Clash fan tho', they have their moments but nah...

I'm young-ish at 34. The Beatles were of my parent's generation and largely appeared to me to be the establishment. When I was a teen I was into punk and they ain't punk. They don't have much grunt, put it that way.

I can appreciate a good song, so they've not totally escaped my attention but blah blah best band ever isn't something I'm gonna be able to get behind. The idea of something being treated to such reverence and universal approbation makes me suspicious anyway.

Maxwell's Silver Hammer is fucking bollocks.

An example of what John used to call Pauls "granny songs". Yeah total shite. But the first time i gave abbey road a good listen a few years ago by the time i got to i want you (she's so heavy) and the shit had kicked in you can't help but think wow

Heh! Totally agree with most of this even tho I love the Beatles.

Can totally see why so much of what goes on around them puts people right off. Personally I was brought up on it, inherited the albums from my mum and wore them out before I was 10. When I got into guitar in my teens I started with all that stuff and was just the right age and nerdy mentality to get completely absorbed in all the outtake and demo stuff that came out in the early 90s. Had a genuis bass player buddy who was equally obsessed and we spent weeks hanging out, smoking hella weed, reading revolution in the head and learning all the parts from the complete scores book and recording stuff on tape 4 track. But yeah, I can totally see why some people hate them.

For example, I agree that Lennon appears to have been a horrible human being. However he (co)wrote some crackers, had a great rock n Roll voice (especially in the early years) and was a killer rhythm player.

Macca is one of the most punchable faces in pop history and is now a national embarrassment. I fucken love his bass playing and probably three quarters of his Beatles output. There was period there in the mid-late 60s where I genuinely think he was operating at genius level. His voice on live era stuff like All My Lovin' and I'm Down blows my mind too.

Ringo is the king-o. Swingy, heavy, loose. Love him.

George took me years to fully appreciate. I really don't rate him as a songwriter. I really dislike his mopey grumpy lyrics and the Indian stuff leaves me cold. But he's one of my all time favourite guitarists. I don't generally play solos in my own music but I decided a few years back to learn all of my favorite George solos which is an ongoing and fun project. So far i've done: Can't Buy Me Love, All My Lovin' and Till There Was You. Not sure what's next... something from Abbey Road mebee.

enough beatles chat. let's listen to the small faces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IgnRn3Is9w

You're hired!!

Not having grown up in the UK, I have no cultural baggage concerning the Beatles, and while they're not nearly my favourite band I like most of their stuff, obviously with the exceptions of the naff bollocks that McCartney produced at times, or 'Run for Your Life'.

I think George Harrison was learning throughout the Beatles' existence, being younger than the others and less musically trained initially (none of them were much-trained, of course), and only started to come into his own late on when Lennon and McCartney had seemingly run out of inspiration. I think he then had a better post-Beatles career than Lennon.

Equally obviously, they were at the beginning of so many new things, like improved recording techniques, great production, or stylised band images, and 'Help!' (the single, not the LP) is a real watershed moment.

Then too many things went wrong, infighting and all that, and they never really capitalised on the status they had achieved with enough good songs and consistent enough late work (while there are good moments on all the late patchwork albums, even on the embarrassing 'Let It Be', they're just too mixed to be 'great'), but it had undoubtedly become completely unsustainable and they all just needed a holiday from being Beatles.

That's you told.

Yeah, even this is too much Beatles chat. Back to guitars!

G&L. What's the deal? How come Leo Fender's own company doesn't enjoy the reputation of his namesake? They seem to be cheaper too.

Guitarists are a conservative breed, I'd rather a Fender than a G&L..

https://youtu.be/POGsy9Ru9sE

Those Stones gifs are great. Listening to the playback of Wild Horses from the Gimme Shelter movie innit?

It's the classic/traditional thing that people buy in to. He spent years improving the strat with the musicman sabre, which was the first guitar he designed after selling fender but it didn't really catch on. Every aspect was meant to be an improvement over a strat. People never seem to want new ideas with guitars. Just the old stuff in abundance.

G&L are better for the most part but not the same. I can only think of a few guitarists who have used them. That might be another reason, just not in people's conscious?

their tele basses are lush.

@Apone That track is great! Groundhogs are new to me. I have been looking for decent jams that didn't stray off into Krautrock territory.

@Dogtemple That's interesting. I proper covet the Musicman Axis Super Sport too. I had thought that the builder, Leo Fender ffs, would have gone a lot further for the brand. I almost think that strats are too generic now. I'll sidestep any conversation about famous models in case I end up back at relic/repro/idol :D

That looks like a custard tart, a delicious bass tart.

Classic designs, well executed. Mind boggling that someone would pay more for Fender when these have a good shout at being authentic. They're possibly even more authentic than later Fender models.

i couldn't give a fuck about authenticity. they sound ace.

then again i did sell a '67 p bass for fuck all for drug £££

dark times etc.

i miss that bass.

yeah, I forget about that sometimes. I meant "authentic" in the context of what @Dogtemple was saying about improving the strat

Ooh, I got a new object back in the spring. Very happy to regain a resophnic instrument in my life.

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whar u get soft furnishings tho?

I bought a new Musicman Silhouette in 1989 and kept it for 20 years trying to persuade myself that a) I liked it, not just kinda admired it and b) it sounded good and c) it was cool.

Jacked it in for a Tele and couldn't be happier.

^^ Messer in a Duolian style? Nice!