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• #47552
We also need fewer teenagers screaming around with no brakes
let's try and tackle the actually cause of most accidents, HGV's, first, eh?
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• #47553
I see the Mail and Times vultures circling too
https://twitter.com/richardspillett/status/897771665995833344 -
• #47554
Those pedestrianised areas would help with that.
In any case, ignoring one hazard because there is another, larger one makes no sense. Tackle both.
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• #47555
Assuming you consider them both a hazard.
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• #47556
If the roads weren't death traps then people wouldn't feel the need to cycle on the pavements.
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• #47557
ignoring one hazard because there is another, larger one makes no sense.
In world with limited resources it kind of does, If one hazard is responsible for one death a year, and the other hundreds.
Cyclists don’t cause us, as an organisation, problems, that’s because they aren’t causing our communities problems, they aren’t killing nearly 100 people on our regions roads as mechanically propelled vehicles currently do.
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• #47558
The fact that the jury is deliberating for so long suggests they might be taking their responsibilities seriously and not just knee jerking. Which is something, whatever the verdict.
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• #47559
Or they hate their day jobs.
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• #47560
In my entirely anecdotal experience juries have a problem with the separation of verdict and sentencing - which the chap being so young is probably not helping with.
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• #47561
That may explain why juries are reluctant to convict for manslaughter for RTAs - death by dangerous/careless driving was introduced to offset that, apparently.
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• #47563
a friend commented: It's a London jury, most likely has one or two cyclists on it.
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• #47564
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• #47565
Ladies' Day at Ascot:
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• #47566
Excellent! Borrowing.
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• #47567
Werd.
I used to ride the canal to work in Leeds and parts of it get to 'single file' especially under the bridges.
I don't ride with a bell cos I have no reason for priority. You wouldn't drive around honking so cars move out the way or walk round town screaming 'I'm here, move' so you don't have to slow down/be aware.
Towpaths aren't Cycle Lanes.
I'll admit I did kinda rely on other people to 'ding' if they were on the other side of them booki bridges but other than that, you're a bell if you use your bell for priority.If the roads weren't death traps then people wouldn't feel the need to cycle on the pavements.
Oh Dear....
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• #47568
The judge will always start by directing towards a unanimous verdict. If they've been deliberating a long while (and the foreman says there's a chance of some agreement) then the judge may direct that a 10-2 majority as acceptable.
They'll always push for unanimous first.I've recently been on jury service and one jury had some people who couldn't separate the verdict from the sentence, the other was much better. It depends on the people.
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• #47569
Ah thanks. So if they can't manage 10-2 does that mean retrial? Jury's locked or whatever. Stymied.
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• #47570
Up to the CPS to decide if there's a chance of another jury convicting.
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• #47571
Case dropped if not?
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• #47572
Barristers on both sides will get a fair idea of what has kept them from reaching a decision and make a call based on that.
If it's simply jury composition, they'll likely go again.
I covered courts as a journalist (yeah, yeah - tin hat) for many years and you just can't read juries. They make some strange decisions.
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• #47573
Like that John Grisham novel, The Jury of Twats.
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• #47574
People are weird it's true and juries are comprised of people...kinda terrifying but it's probably the least shit way
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• #47575
It's an upgrade on checking if she floats before burning at the stake.
If you're riding carefully enough you should be able to avoid most situations where you need a bell. I need to shout warnings far less often than I used to, because I slowed down a bit.